On Jun 16, 2012 4:48 AM, "Heiko Baums" <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Am Sat, 16 Jun 2012 00:05:11 +0800 > schrieb Oon-Ee Ng <ngoonee.talk@xxxxxxxxx>: > > > That load of drivel below isn't bashing? You refer to fanboys and > > proceed to list a whole loss of statements not made by anyone in this > > thread. And then you insist that for pulse to be standard it must > > conform to your standards, which by the way something like cups also > > fails. Man, I can't believe my office photocopier can't print out > > stapled copies using cups, it shouldn't be called a standard until it > > can do that.... > > > > Not to mention the multiple times you assume that pulse is being > > forced on everyone just because it's a dependency of some software. > > May as well complain how X is being forced on everyone. > > > > You, sir, are a troll. > > That's funny. A troll is calling someone else, who just wrote facts, a > troll. But you may keep comparing apples with oranges, if it makes you > happy. Your "facts" are opinions and assumptions, mostly about putting words in the mythical "pulse fanboy's" mouth. Not to mention totally unhelpful to the discussion. > > If your photocopier can't print out staple copies using cups, this is > totally different from not being able to hear any sound, because you > only have a professional audio card and the sound server you are forced > to use is not able to handle this audio card. And cups is not the only > printing server. You see the difference? Your previous email indicated sounds could be heard, but only stereo sound. Afaik that's the case for most 5.1 and all 7.1 cards. How is that different from cups not supporting advanced options in my printer? Because pulse is the only existing sound server? You can't and won't use pulse, fine, just don't use it. Jack or pure alsa still work. Just stop pretending that your arbitrary criteria for pulse is in any way an inalienable truth. Just to summarize, it seems your two main gripes are lack of support for semi pro cards and being "forced" to use it. The former is not likely to change, the latter is patently untrue seeing as how you are already not using it. > > Heiko