Am Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:55:28 +0000 schrieb Fons Adriaensen <fons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > Could be. My impression is based on talking with LP face to face. > And yours ? My is based on a bug report, upstream's solution for closing this bug report - this weird ALSA configuration which cripples those cards to pure stereo cards - and their response to the reopening of this bug report. > I fully agree that designing Gnome or KDE so they can't be installed > easily without PA by a user who accepts the consequences of doing so > (no desktop sounds) is a sign of *very crappy* engineering. > > OTOH, if you use one of those desktops you can just suspend PA, start > Jack and your apps and go on. I don't use Gnome or KDE, I don't have > PA installed so I can't talk from experience. But I know that people > are doing this all the time. For example Joern Nettingsmeier, who is > probably using the most complex and advanced pro audio setups ever > done in Linux, apparently has no problem with this. OK, looks like there is a working workaround, but not a real solution. The solution would be a better engineering. Heiko