On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:44:46 +0100 Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, 2012-01-29 at 16:57 +0100, Martti Kühne wrote: > > it's actually possible to get most features that come with gdm, eg. > > session chooser, working with xdm. > > This was the same for GDM. What would you do if the next upgrade will > make XDM depend to PA? Of cause, you'll simply install another login > manager. But what will you do if really important applications get such > an unneeded dependency and it will break your work flow completely? > That's the point. Again and again and again, it's no problem as long as > it is for PA only and you've the knowledge to build a dummy package. So how exactly does an unwanted dep break your workflow? So XDM depends on PA -- big deal -- noone forces you to actually use PA. Just get your job done and in the evening rebuild the package. > > What are "less common" audio cards? Envy24 is a very common microchip > used by tons of audio cards, not only for audio production. RME are the > only good supported, professional cards for Linux, that's why they are > not exotic for audio production. Those cards have drivers that work. > > When I've got a set up and I'll upgrade it, it's ok if things get > borked, because of a new sound server. But if a group of people file bug > reports, than it's ignorant not to fix the new sound server, but instead > to demand that it must become dependency for more and more software even > if it has nothing to do with audio. PA, gnome, consolekit are essentially redhat things and are very closely tight to fedora. These people are trying to produce a great OS. They don't have to care about other linuxes. Do you have to pay for PA/gnome? If you are sooooo unhappy with PA -- fork it and develop it the way you like. > > - Ralf > -- Leonid Isaev GnuPG key ID: 164B5A6D Key fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D
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