Well it seems no help then it seems parts are working parts are not so how do i set about uninstalling KDE 4.8 and reverting to the previous working version or is 4.8 the new viersion now if so it has problems Pete . --- On Sat, 28/1/12, P NIKOLIC <p.nikolic1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: P NIKOLIC <p.nikolic1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Another Major glitch now To: arch-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Saturday, 28 January, 2012, 15:43 I have just updated the system now on kde4.8 but all i get is kmix and a white screen noting else works at all even that took 12 mins to come up (ps the update was a normal pacman -Suy ) Pete (sent from webamil on the lappy cus main machine is futzed )