>> As for my user groups: >> video,audio,optical,storage,games,lp,wheel,scanner,power >> >> As for kde packages, I have a very minimal kde install and it still works. >> kdebase is must of course. Try it with just that and the above settings. If >> it doesn't work, then take a look at `pacman -Sg kdeadmin` > > voyager:/ #pacman -Sg kdeadmin > kdeadmin kdeadmin-kcron > kdeadmin kdeadmin-ksystemlog > kdeadmin kdeadmin-kuser > kdeadmin kdeadmin-system-config-printer-kde > > > > Pete . I guess kdeadmin isn't the group I was thinking about. These are the KDE packages I have installed, very small: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/532060/ I start kde via inittab. -- Jonathan Vasquez