PS: On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 12:06 +0100, Kwpolska wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Ralf Madorf > <ralf.mardorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > (b) learn how to code and cut > out all sound stuff out of gnome-settings-daemon. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=998403#p998403 But this won't help, if you install GNOME lot of packages for sure depend to the package pulseaudio. AND AGAIN, it's not true that GNOME3 needs PA. Why do you claim this untruth if you're an expert? Just some apps need it. Now imagine deaf or pro-audio users. Why should they install PA and why isn't it allowed to ask for solutions? Again, Merry Christmas (now without typo)