On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 12:06 +0100, Kwpolska wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Ralf Madorf > <ralf.mardorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Wow :D > > > > I first just asked for a solution similar to Debian dummy packages and > > get tons [1] of insults. > > > > Then I explained why I (and I know a lot of other people) will install > > e.g. GNOME. I'll do it again. We might wish to use this DE or simply GDM > > as login manager. I don't blame Arch Linux packages, I just blame > > answers like "don't use gnome". > > > > No netiquette? > > > > I was silent since days, stopped putting in my 2 cents all the time and > > now I asked for help and get those answers?! That's strange and creepy. > > > > Anyway, if somebody should know a solution how to use GNOME without PA, > > any hints are welcome. > > > > Cheers! > > > > Ralf > > > > [1] OT, but too funny, since I got all mails two times, even more than > > 1k of old mails Evolution already had downloaded from the server. > > > > Dear idiot, Dear name caller :D > > I'm kinda wondering why you aren't filtered from my mailbox yet. You > top-posted, I'm not a top poster and I never was a top poster. > "put in" useless "2 cents", and whatnot. I did, like you did now. > Now you are > asking a stupid question. Using GNOME or GDM without PA is > I-M-P-O-S-S-I-B-L-E. Period. If you are wondering, why one needs > sound in GDM, I can help you (not tested, but I'm sure it actually > happens): what if you mistype your password? Then you'll get a PC speaker beep, but I even don't need a PC speaker beep. At least deaf also don't need sound. Pro-audio don't need Pulseaudio. My RME card anyway won't work before I run HDSP mixer. Pulseaudio anyway can't handle my RME card. > Or maybe you can't see > the login prompt and your computer should say "Choose your username > and type your password"? There are many uses for that. But even if > you don't need that, GDM and all other GNOME apps are SUPPOSED to be > used as a part of GNOME, not > I-want-to-use-kde-and-gdm-and-nautilus-and-whatnot. Expect such > issues. > > My suggestion is: (a) stop whining; or (b) learn how to code and cut > out all sound stuff out of gnome-settings-daemon. I only need to recompile it with a switch set, no need to learn how to code for Linux. > No matter what you > choose, there is one more option, which is much better: GET OUTTA HERE > and use Debian if you like it so much. Not right? Then buy a Mac. > Or Windows if you want to. PERIOD. Mac? Windows? He? > Oh, and in case you're wondering, you will be filtered out after I see > your response to this message. > > Sincerely, > Chris "Kwpolska" Warrick. > > P.S. > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Ralf Madorf > <ralf.mardorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 12:16 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote: > >> if you don't like gdm, remove it and replace it with lxdm,lightdm or > >> other crap out there. > > > > I like GDM. I don't like login managers where I can't browse the users. > > > > - Ralf > > > > Oh. So you want to tell me that [this][0] is a DM without a user browser, > and [that][1] (sorry for an Ubuntu screenshot), and [that][2] for sure doesn't > have a user list! > [0]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KDM.jpg > [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lightdm-screenshot.jpg > [2]: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/File:LXDM.png > > I'm looking forward to your answer, especially on the first part of > this message. > > C. *?* Mary Christmas too :D Ralf