> Am I the only one reading this thread who sees the inherent > contradiction of wanting complete control over your system, wanting > things not to break, yet wanting software to be (relatively > frequently) updated? I think the source of the problem is the lack of communication and documentation - not necessarly by Arch devs. I'm yet to find good documentation about what should Polkit, ConsoleKit and all the other *kits actually do, how to debug when they don't do that, how to test and check their state etc... -- дамјан