Tom Gundersen (2011-01-21 14:36): > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Karol Babioch <karol@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Am 20.01.2011 14:18, schrieb Tom Gundersen:> > >> Anything in particular you have in mind? We are working towards > >> complete backwards compatibility with initscripts, and we are more or > >> less there (modulo unknown bugs). > > > > First of all I was talking about systemd as the default init system > > within Arch. > > I see. I misunderstood. > > >> Any suggestions about what might make the installation easier? At the > >> moment you have to install some packages from AUR and add a line to > >> your GRUB file. > > > > I appreciate your work (and anyone who has helped you out a bit), but to > > be honest its not the way I would think of an ideal solution :(. Right > > now you have to install a few packages from AUR and run it in parallel > > with sysvinit. I don't even know if there is a way to remove sysvinit, > > but I would guess this wouldn't be easy. > > At the moment removing sysvinit is not a goal. We are happy to see > them peacefully co-exist. I expect this will continue being our goal > as long as sysvinit is the default on Arch. > > > Furthermore units are provided by a single package. I don't think thats > > a good way, as I get a whole bunch of units I actually don't need. > > This is a temporary solution until packages ship unit files upstream. > I agree it is not ideal, but it is a simple solution for the time > being (without much of a drawback, the unused unit files are not even > parsed). > > > All in all, its relatively easy to install systemd, because of the work > > you and others have done, but it doesn't follow the KISS principle at all. > > I agree that the temporary packaging solutions are not ideal, but it's > the best we can do in the short run. However, none of these problems > are fundamental, and if/when systemd is in widespread use, these > problems will disappear. > > > I guess, to make it really affordable it must be declared as official, > > so the packages itself contain the units, replacing the sysvinit. > > At the moment the intention is just to allow people to test systemd, > so this would be quite premature. > > Thanks for your comments. Hmm, it's good for systemd to have found a maintainer with such a positive attitude as yours :) If you keep it up, I can imagine systemd entering community and/or becoming the default. Hopefully not before it is ready - as this seems to have been the main problem with pulseaudio. -- -- Rogutės Sparnuotos
