On Monday 02 Aug 2010 at 15:50 Firmicus wrote: > On 31/07/2010 14:00, Thomas Bächler wrote: > > Am 31.07.2010 13:30, schrieb jesse jaara: > >> The name and description of the arch-dev-public mailing list are > >> extreamly misleading, for me personally the name and description tells > >> that the list is open for everyone to discuss about development of Arch > >> Linux and apps. This also makes me think that there must also be a > >> closed mailing list for the developers and USA government only, where > >> they can discuss about putting a spying app to every single arch box > >> there is. :D > > > > There IS a closed list, and it used to be the only development list for > > quite some time. In March 2007, arch-dev-public was created and > > virtually all development talk moved there (traffic on arch-dev is very > > minimal, mainly discussions about server infrastructure and world > > domination). > > I think Jesse is specifically asking why the arch-dev-public list is not > open to everyone to WRITE to. Other devs can correct me if I am wrong, but > the rationale for making it "read-only" to non-devs is to limit traffic to > an acceptable level so that development discussions can be conducted > productively. The arch-general list is open to everyone and all devs > subscribe to it. But it is true that the "read-only" status of > arch-dev-public could be stated more clearly on > http://mailman.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/, perhaps changing it to > something like: > "Public mailing list for Arch Linux development (read-only for non-devs)" Yeah, if someone could be bothered, it might even make more sense to rename them such that "arch-dev" is the publicly readable list and "arch-dev-private" is the private one that no-one really knows about (or cares about). It's probably too much hassle for too many people, but would make things look a bit more obvious from a (non-dev) community member's perspective, while still also making perfect sense to the devs. I have to admit, I made the same mistake as Jesse when I first arrived in Archland. Pete.