Am Sonntag 01 August 2010 schrieb Dan McGee: > On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Tobias Powalowski <t.powa@xxxxxx> wrote: > > Am Sonntag 01 August 2010 schrieb Dieter Plaetinck: > >> On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 > > > > 16:46:33 +0200 > > > >> Heiko Baums <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > I don't > > > > think that nilfs-utils should be moved to the base group. I > > > >> > agree with > > > > moving it to [core] but not to base, because base is > > > >> > assumed to be > > > > installed on every computer and packages in the base > > > >> > group are usually > > > > not listed in the depends array of a PKGBUILD. > > > >> > On the contrary I > > > > think there could be some other file system tools > > > >> > like jfsutils, lvm2 > > > > and xfsprogs be removed from the base group (not > > > >> > from [core]). > >> > >> I > > > > think this explanation makes sense. I just found this back: > > > > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User:Allan/Base_Cleanup > > > >> So indeed, it > > > > seems like the goal is to remove all non-essential things > > > >> (reiserfs, xfs, > > > > ..) from base. > > > >> > They probably should be automatically installed if a > > > > partition is > > > >> > formatted with one of these filesystems by AIF. But usually > > > > people who > > > >> > are using these filesystems know what they are doing and know > > > > that > > > >> > they have to select these packages for installation. > >> > >> Actually > > > > it's fairly trivial to "preselect" those packagas based on the > > > >> filesystems > > > > used during the filesystem step. I believe some of it is > > > >> already > > > > implemented in aif. > > > >> Dieter > > > > My 2 cents about nilfs, > > I have added it to > > archboot environment some time ago. > > To integrate it into an installer it is > > plain not usable, because the kernel doesn't know it. > > All usual filesystem > > utilities like blkid etc. don't recognize it. > > Sure it will be an optional > > filesystem in the future, but it should be supported by the kernel and > > major filesystem and core utiltities in a sane way. > > Except that I've seen it running on his root partition on a booting > laptop without any of these problems you speak of... > > -Dan Yes sure i believe it works, my concerns are more that the main tools just don't support it, which makes it imho more complicated to implement the installation support. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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