On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Tobias Powalowski <t.powa@xxxxxx> wrote: > Am Sonntag 01 August 2010 schrieb Dieter Plaetinck: >> On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 > 16:46:33 +0200 >> >> Heiko Baums <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > I don't > think that nilfs-utils should be moved to the base group. I >> > agree with > moving it to [core] but not to base, because base is >> > assumed to be > installed on every computer and packages in the base >> > group are usually > not listed in the depends array of a PKGBUILD. >> > >> > On the contrary I > think there could be some other file system tools >> > like jfsutils, lvm2 > and xfsprogs be removed from the base group (not >> > from [core]). >> >> I > think this explanation makes sense. I just found this back: >> > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User:Allan/Base_Cleanup >> So indeed, it > seems like the goal is to remove all non-essential things >> (reiserfs, xfs, > ..) from base. >> >> > They probably should be automatically installed if a > partition is >> > formatted with one of these filesystems by AIF. But usually > people who >> > are using these filesystems know what they are doing and know > that >> > they have to select these packages for installation. >> >> Actually > it's fairly trivial to "preselect" those packagas based on the >> filesystems > used during the filesystem step. I believe some of it is >> already > implemented in aif. >> >> Dieter > My 2 cents about nilfs, > I have added it to > archboot environment some time ago. > To integrate it into an installer it is > plain not usable, because the kernel doesn't know it. > All usual filesystem > utilities like blkid etc. don't recognize it. > Sure it will be an optional > filesystem in the future, but it should be supported by the kernel and major > filesystem and core utiltities in a sane way. Except that I've seen it running on his root partition on a booting laptop without any of these problems you speak of... -Dan
