Joe:
I gave up on gpm in a terminal before x is started. I never could manage to get
to work right. The other thing I've noticed about the onboard graphics is
some manufacturers seem to modify the drivers slightly. I had one laptop
with ATI onboard and the only drivers I could make work were the ones
from the laptop manufacturer.
Glad you got it working, mostly at least.
Myra
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 18:41, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook <jtwdyp@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> It would appear that on Jul 5, Myra Nelson did say:
>
>> Joe:
>>
>> I've used nVidia cards for years and fought the same problems for
>> years (12 or so),
>> and used 3Dfx voodoo cards prior to nVidia. I've personally experienced the same
>> problems with several different generations of nVidia graphics,
>> especially the on
>> board graphics. I finally caved and spent the money for pci cards to solve most
>> of my problems (I realize that's not always an option for many people).
>
> Believe me, if cashflow wasn't such an issue that the only way I got to
> stick a working desktop under that Sony hi-res monitor again was because my
> brotherNlaw bought himself a new machine I'd have ditched the nvidia just as
> soon as I knew about it... But it's looking like the proprietary driver
> will do the trick...
>
>> Since the nouveau drivers came out I've never managed to get them working. I've
>> tried several times because, like you, I don't need 3d. The xf86vesa driver has
>> always worked, but for decent graphics I've always wound up installing the
>> proprietary drivers. The setup utility that's installed sets up the
>> xorg.conf file
>> and you should be off and running.
>
> Yup! Of course it bugs me a little that the video driver depends on xorg...
> I wanted the console to work right before I started installing X...
> But at lest it was relatively painless. Since pacman -S nvidia pulled in so
> much of X I immediately followed it with the other packages that the
> beginners guide suggests And the quickly added a couple of tolerable
> DE/WM's Rebooted and the console problems were all history...
>
>> Now on to trouble shooting. Please don't take offense at the twenty questions
>> routine everyone gets from typical tech support, but without seeing your machine
>> I have some suggestions.
>
> My feeling is that anyone who has the stones to ask for help on ANY
> technical mailing list {even friendly ones} had dag burned better be
> prepared to answer questions...
>
>> 1. Have you tried hooking up a monitor from another machine and see if you can
>> reproduce the problem.
>
> No I didn't. But then again I really wanted to use this flat screen Sony...
>
>> 2. If you happen to have another video card (it's a nice thought), try
>> putting it in and see if you can reproduce the problem.
>
> No I didn't have one available.
>
>> 2. I don't recall any of the older on boards have dual video ports,
>> but if they do switch ports and see what happens.
>
> I only saw one place to plug in the monitor cable...
>
>> 3. Go into the bios and check the video and power management settings.
>
> Now that's a thought. Even though it's now a moot point, I think I'll take
> a peek, when next I boot, to see what options are in fact there.
>
>> 4. If the manual came with the computer, RTFineM. LOL. Seriously, with HP boxes
>> it sometimes helps. The do some strange things with the Pavilion line
>> (from my personal experiences)
>
> Nah, Charlie had this pc to long to know what he did with the fine manual.
>
>> I will again apologize if I have offended you with the above, it wasn't
>> meant to just pass on some of the things I've had to do over the years
>> with nVidia graphics I spent a lot of time learning to hand craft
>> xorg.conf files for nVidia cards. I was actually upset when the newer
>> version of x didn't need them, but have found using the proprietary
>> drivers and the set up utilities work the best. I've also learned not to
>> run a display manager and log in from the console.
>
> None taken Myra, While I tend to prefer open source stuff, I'm not allergic
> to using proprietary drivers, especially when I can get them via my distro's
> package management system without having to write somebody a check...
> And aside from the xorg dependency I have to admit as soon as I installed
> nvidia, it all started working (except that I think it's blocking the gpm
> daemon... {so much for copy/paste in the console...})
>
> I never got used to using a display manager in the first place Every time I
> install a new distro, one of the first things I gotta do is find out how
> to avoid their preferred DM and use startx when (and if) I decide I'm ready
> for X to start.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions Myra, If I'd have had your response before I'd
> installed nvidia, I'd have tried most of your suggestions. But it could be
> that the next person with a similar problem will catch a clue from this
> thread so I'm glad to here even the ones that no longer make sense for me.
>
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