It would appear that on Jul 4, Andre "Osku" Schmidt did say: > i got lost in your mail... but i do see from your subject that you > should use `pacman -Syu` and not just `pacman -Su`, as the package > database wont be updated without `y`... Sorry for my natural "wordyness" but I do have a hard time with brevity. If I hadn't been trying to keep that book down to a couple of chapters I'd have mentioned that I use pacman Sy as a separate command. It's nice that I could combine them into a single command. But on some systems I still use apt-get, and my ingrained habit of starting with a separate refresh command keeps me out of trouble. > and for blank screen, maybe try kernel option `nomodeset`... and in > next mail try to be more precise what you did and what happens... OK I'll try that on my next reboot cycle. (just have to finish a few E-mail chores first.) I'll let you know what happens... > as you talk about "pop-ups", did you install xorg ? are you using a DE ? > which gfx driver you installed for xorg ?... fons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx nailed that one... I did think that my overlong text did specify that the pop-ups came from the monitor, but Like you said, you got lost in my post. (Sorry) It would appear that on Jul 4, fons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx did say: > On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 11:51:12AM +0200, Andre Osku Schmidt wrote: > > as you talk about "pop-ups", did you install xorg ? are you using a DE ? > > which gfx driver you installed for xorg ?... > > The popups are those generated by the monitor when it doesn't get a > valid signal. Having a Sony as well they sound familiar to me. > Things seem to go wrong well before Xorg gets involved. The > nomodeset option willl probably provide a working system in > RL 3. Once that is working we can have a closer look. ABSOLUTELY. my next task _was_ supposed to be to open a lynx session on one console open to the wiki to remind myself HOW to use another console to get x working on an arch install... (This is only my second arch install ever. The first, on my laptop has worked out fairly well for me.) But I did have X running on that before they stopped passing control of the video back and forth between the kernel and the xserver. (Did I understand correctly that such control now resides only in the kernel whether x is up or not?) But in any case even when I do get X working I won't allow ANY display manager to control my boot/login process. If they take away startx I'll likely give up X before I'll use GDM, KDM, Entrance (etc...) Any graphical login prompt always makes me so uncomfortable that I forget why I was booting the durned computer in the first place. Heck I even insist on a text based grub menu for similar reasons. When I'm ready to put up with a GUI, I use startx, and not until... Still Like I told "Osku", I'll try that nomodeset kernel option and post the results in this thread. Thanks for the help guys. -- | --- ___ | <0> <-> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | ~\___/~ <<jtwdyp@xxxxxxxx>>
