Am Sonntag 10 Januar 2010 schrieb Simon Boulay: > On 01/10/2010 09:48 AM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > > Am Samstag 09 Januar 2010 schrieb Simon Boulay: > >> On 01/09/2010 09:09 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > >>> Am Samstag 09 Januar 2010 schrieb Dan McGee: > >>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Tobias Powalowski<t.powa@xxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>> > Yes will change the install message. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yes there is no mention in the changelogs, really strange. > >>>>>> greetings > >>>>>> tpowa > >>>>> > >>>>> Ok like this? > >>>>> echo ">>> Since kernel 2.6.29:" > >>>>> echo ">>> Qemu package now provides standard qemu with kvm > >>>>> enabled." echo "" > >>>>> echo ">>> PLEASE READ FOR KVM USAGE!" > >>>>> echo ">>> Load the correct KVM module, you will need a KVM > >>>>> capable CPU!" echo ">>> Add yourself to the group 'kvm'." > >>>>> echo ">>> Use 'qemu --enable-kvm' to use KVM." > >>>>> echo "" > >>>>> echo "With the release of qemu and qemu-kvm 0.12.X, the kqemu > >>>>> kernel module" echo "is no longer supported and will be removed from > >>>>> the repositories. You" echo "can safely uninstall it from your > >>>>> system." > >>>> > >>>> Can we put some vercmp checks around messages like this? That way > >>>> people only have to see them once (when they upgrade the first time to > >>>> a 0.12.x version for the second message). The first message should > >>>> really be a post_install message. > >>>> > >>>> And with all that said, why are there two packages in extra if "qemu > >>>> package now provides standard qemu with kvm enabled"? > >>>> > >>>> -Dan > >>> > >>> Yes sure i can add those vercmp stuff. > >>> qemu and qemu-kvm is different. > >>> qemu-kvm is only for kvm while qemu provides much more machines to > >>> emulate. > >> > >> I'm not sure about that. Both seems to share the same code for machine > >> emulation; only the kvm stuff is different. In fedora 12, they build kvm > >> and qemu-system-xxx from qemu-kvm 0.11. But I don't know how this will > >> evolve in the future. > >> If qemu and qemu-kvm are used for different purposes, one may need to > >> install both apps side by side but that's not possible in archlinux. > > > > Why? > > qemu is for those who need more different emulation types. > > qemu-kvm is only for 86 emulation with kvm hardware support. > > Both differ in files you would need to hack bios file destination etc. > > I don't see any need to install both at the same time. > > Because one may want to use x86 emulation with kvm hardware support and > qemu-system-arm for example on the same machine. > It is possible to build all targets with qemu-kvm but that's not the > default and I don't know if that'll be the case for future release. > For 0.11 release, qemu and qemu-kvm seems to converge, but with 0.12 > that's not so clear (at least to me). As I understand it, the > development of platform emulation is done in qemu and kvm virtualization > is done in qemu-kvm (even if qemu has some kvm support) but the qemu > repository is regularly merged in qemu-kvm. I don't find any official > statement about that, so... normal qemu supports kvm too, just use --enable-kvm start parameter. So no need to install qemu-kvm. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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