Eric Bélanger a écrit : > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Firmicus <Firmicus@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Eric Bélanger a écrit : >> >>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Firmicus <Firmicus@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Allan McRae a écrit : >>>> >>>> >>>>> Firmicus wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry for the halloweenish subject heading ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> I recently got this bug report: >>>>>> http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16690 >>>>>> >>>>>> It turned out it was not a bug with the perl package at all, but a >>>>>> problem which occurs when the presumably very old and no longer existing >>>>>> package "termcap-compat" is installed on a system. It was originally >>>>>> installed as a dependency for some other, unidentified package. And it >>>>>> turned out to my surprise that even I still had that package installed! >>>>>> >>>>>> That prompts me to ask the following: >>>>>> >>>>>> Are there other such obsolete packages that typically should no longer >>>>>> be installed on a "clean" Arch Linux system? I am not in favour of >>>>>> automating their removal, of course, but it would be useful to collect a >>>>>> list of such things that we could put in the wiki and/or our monthly >>>>>> newsletter. Another example that comes to mind is the obsolete file >>>>>> /etc/udev/udev.rules that I also still had until recently, and which I >>>>>> have removed after Thomas' suggestion. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please submit your suggestions for the forthcoming "Arch Ghostbusting >>>>>> Day" (aka "The Great Halloween Cleanup")! :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> libdownload - replaced by libfetch as pacman download backend >>>>> csup - relaced by using rsync for abs >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I removed these long ago, but... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Although, all these should be detectable by "pacman -Qqtd" (maybe not >>>>> libdownload as it was part of base). >>>>> >>>>> >>>> the above gave me quite a substantial list! Probably I should run this >>>> more often. Most of what is listed by pacman -Qqtd can indeed be safely >>>> removed. But sometimes the output can be surprising: I've got nautilus >>>> in there, which clearly is not something I would want to remove from my >>>> Gnome desktop :) Well, this is the kind of mess that one can expect on a >>>> system that has been installed nearly four years ago! >>>> >>>> F >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Try with "pacman -Qm". That might work better if you don't have a lot >>> of custom/AUR packages installed. >>> >>> >>> >> Hem, I have hundreds of them! But they're almost exclusively >> auto-generated packages for CPAN/perl stuff. In my case running >> pacman -Qqm | grep -v perl >> does the job, which does not, however, reveal any new item to be cleaned >> away. >> >> I am actually hunting for packages that used to be in core or extra and >> no longer exist, not even in community/AUR, but might still be polluting >> some Arch installations... Perhaps termcap-compat was an exceptional >> case after all. >> >> > > check http://www.archlinux.de/?page=PackageStatistics especially the > packages in the unknown category. Some of the removed packages are > listed there. > > That's what I guessed: termcap-compat has ~18%! csup: 15% and libdownload: 59%!! For the rest one would need to check each pkg under "unknown" for non-existence in AUR... Any volunteer? :)
