On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Firmicus <Firmicus@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Eric Bélanger a écrit : >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Firmicus <Firmicus@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Allan McRae a écrit : >>> >>>> Firmicus wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi folks, >>>>> >>>>> Sorry for the halloweenish subject heading ;) >>>>> >>>>> I recently got this bug report: >>>>> http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16690 >>>>> >>>>> It turned out it was not a bug with the perl package at all, but a >>>>> problem which occurs when the presumably very old and no longer existing >>>>> package "termcap-compat" is installed on a system. It was originally >>>>> installed as a dependency for some other, unidentified package. And it >>>>> turned out to my surprise that even I still had that package installed! >>>>> >>>>> That prompts me to ask the following: >>>>> >>>>> Are there other such obsolete packages that typically should no longer >>>>> be installed on a "clean" Arch Linux system? I am not in favour of >>>>> automating their removal, of course, but it would be useful to collect a >>>>> list of such things that we could put in the wiki and/or our monthly >>>>> newsletter. Another example that comes to mind is the obsolete file >>>>> /etc/udev/udev.rules that I also still had until recently, and which I >>>>> have removed after Thomas' suggestion. >>>>> >>>>> Please submit your suggestions for the forthcoming "Arch Ghostbusting >>>>> Day" (aka "The Great Halloween Cleanup")! :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> libdownload - replaced by libfetch as pacman download backend >>>> csup - relaced by using rsync for abs >>>> >>> I removed these long ago, but... >>> >>> >>>> Although, all these should be detectable by "pacman -Qqtd" (maybe not >>>> libdownload as it was part of base). >>>> >>> the above gave me quite a substantial list! Probably I should run this >>> more often. Most of what is listed by pacman -Qqtd can indeed be safely >>> removed. But sometimes the output can be surprising: I've got nautilus >>> in there, which clearly is not something I would want to remove from my >>> Gnome desktop :) Well, this is the kind of mess that one can expect on a >>> system that has been installed nearly four years ago! >>> >>> F >>> >>> >> >> Try with "pacman -Qm". That might work better if you don't have a lot >> of custom/AUR packages installed. >> >> > > Hem, I have hundreds of them! But they're almost exclusively > auto-generated packages for CPAN/perl stuff. In my case running > pacman -Qqm | grep -v perl > does the job, which does not, however, reveal any new item to be cleaned > away. > > I am actually hunting for packages that used to be in core or extra and > no longer exist, not even in community/AUR, but might still be polluting > some Arch installations... Perhaps termcap-compat was an exceptional > case after all. > check http://www.archlinux.de/?page=PackageStatistics especially the packages in the unknown category. Some of the removed packages are listed there. > >