+1 that I haven't had trouble with gconf really. At the moment, I don't run it and aside from some warnings from some apps, it's generally been fine too. -AT On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Hussam Al-Tayeb <ht990332@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 02:28 +0200, hollunder@xxxxxx wrote: >> On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:01:24 +0300 >> Hussam Al-Tayeb <ht990332@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 20:33 +0200, JM wrote: >> > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Jan de Groot <jan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > > wrote: >> > > > On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 17:17 +0200, JM wrote: >> > > >> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Jan de Groot >> > > >> <jan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > > >> > On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 22:48 +0200, JM wrote: >> > > >> >> Hello, >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> I noticed that libsoup in [testing] depends on gconf, is that >> > > >> >> really necessary? Libsoup is a dependency for some >> > > >> >> desktop-agnostic applications such as Midori (through its >> > > >> >> dependency on libwebkit) or hardinfo (currently in AUR). >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> Regards, >> > > >> >> JM >> > > >> > >> > > >> > This is a temporary bugfix. At this moment the libproxy code >> > > >> > in libsoup is unstable, so the libsoup developers decided to >> > > >> > disable libproxy and use gconf instead for proxy detection. >> > > >> > The changelog states that it's a temporary solution that will >> > > >> > be worked out for 2.26.0. With 2.26.1, the dependencies will >> > > >> > be the same as we had with the 2.25.x release which was in >> > > >> > testing for a while. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> libsoup 2.26.1-1 still carries the dependency on gconf. Has the >> > > >> situation changed? >> > > >> >> > > >> Regards, >> > > >> JM >> > > > >> > > > No it hasn't, as this needs to be fixed inside libproxy. Libproxy >> > > > is not threadsafe when it calls into gconf, so libsoup calls into >> > > > GConf itself to get the proxy information and passes the >> > > > information to libproxy. Until libproxy is fixed to do threadsafe >> > > > calls into GConf, the dependency on GConf will stay. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > I mistakenly assumed that the problem had lied within libsoup not >> > > libproxy. Thanks for clarifying that. >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > JM >> > >> > gconf only depends on orbit2>=2.14.17 gtk2>=2.16.0 libxml2>=2.7.3 >> > policykit>=0.9 libldap>=2.3.43 >> > It has no dependencies on "ugly" gnome libs (libgnome, libbonobo) so >> > non gnome users shouldn't have problem with it. >> >> But isn't gconf a daemon? >> There's an app in development I might want to use that uses vala and >> gconf, and I don't know how bad that gconf daemon is.. >> >> regards, >> Philipp > > It's perfectly safe and very well designed. It's job is to notify > applications when their settings have been changed. For example, if you > edit the configuration of gedit externally (not from inside gedit > options dialog) but from gconf-editor for example, gconf daemon tells > gedit that the settings have been changed without the need to restart > gedit. >