On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:05 AM, <hollunder@xxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:33:01 +0100 > <hollunder@xxxxxx> wrote: > >> On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:31:13 -0300 >> Denis Alessandro Altoe Falqueto <denisfalqueto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Sergey Manucharian >> > <sergeym@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > > On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:03:08 +0100 >> > > <hollunder@xxxxxx> wrote: >> > > >> > > .......... >> > > >> > >> An external drive can be rather reliably identified and always >> > >> mounted at the same place using udev. >> > >> >> > >> This is somewhat problematic on arch linux tough. >> > >> For some reason the devices seem not to be created before >> > >> mount runs although udev runs before it. >> > >> This means that external drives do not get mounted along with all >> > >> the other drives specified in fstab. >> > >> >> > >> I personally wonder what the problem is since this method has >> > >> worked on other distributions. >> > >> >> > >> My workaround is simply another 'mount -a' in rc.local, at this >> > >> point in boottime the devices are created. >> > >> >> > >> Still this doesn't work reliably with one of my drives but this >> > >> is a separate problem (slowness). >> > >> >> > >> Philipp >> > >> >> > > >> > > Folks, you are discussing how to deal with "noob questions" etc., >> > > but nobody paid attention to the more "deep" meaning of the >> > > initial question arisen by Philipp. >> > > >> > > I confirm the problem. So, how to mount an external HDD during the >> > > system start-up? >> > > >> > > Cheers, >> > > Sergey >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > If it is always connected, I would put a line on /etc/fstab so it is >> > mounted as any other ordinary partition. >> > >> > If it is not always connected, I would make a script and put it in >> > /etc/rc.d. The script would be responsible to look if the disk is >> > attached and mount it. It would be good to use some udev rules to >> > make a fixed symlink for the disk, so the script has a fixed target >> > to find. >> > >> >> I already do a combination of udev and fstab which doesn't work. >> >> Old rules that worked on my previous system: >> BUS=="usb", KERNEL=="sd?1", SYSFS{idProduct}=="(somenumber)", >> SYMLINK+="usbdisk200" >> >> BUS=="usb", KERNEL=="sd?1", SYSFS{serial}=="(somenumber)", >> SYMLINK+="usbdisk400" >> >> New rules with newer udev syntax: >> BUS=="usb", ATTRS{serial}=="(somenumber)", KERNEL=="sd?1", >> NAME="%k", SYMLINK+="usbdisk400", GROUP="storage" >> >> BUS=="usb", ATTRS{idProduct}=="(somenumber)", KERNEL=="sd?1", >> NAME="%k", SYMLINK+="usbdisk200", GROUP="storage" >> >> fstab: >> /dev/usbdisk400 /media/disk400 ext3 >> rw,nodev,noexec,auto,noatime,async,users 0 0 >> >> /dev/usbdisk200 /media/disk200 ext3 >> rw,nodev,noexec,auto,noatime,async,users 0 0 >> >> >> What happens is that when 'mount -a' is run at boottime it says >> that /dev/usbdisk400 and /dev/usbdisk200 doesn't exist, consequently >> they don't get mounted. >> When rc.local with another 'mount -a' is executed it works (except >> that the /dev/usbdisk400 is too slow sometimes). >> >> I'm looking forward to your ideas about what's happening. >> >> Best regards, >> Philipp > > > I tried some more. This time I specified one of the usb harddrives by > UUID. I can mount is, so it works, but at boottime this method doesn't > work either. > > I get: > special device UUID=number not found > > same as I got: > special device /dev/usbdisk400 not found > > So to me this looks like udev is not the problem this time. > So what is it, are usb devices not initialised yet when 'mount -a' is > run? > I added the usb_storage module to the modules array in rc.conf but this > didn't change a thing. If I read rc.sysinit correctly the modules are > loaded before 'mount -a'. > > Help is appreciated. > > Philipp > Well, I don't have an external hd, just pendrives, so to me they work fine because I insert/remove often and when the system is already running. But one aproach I would take is to make a script and put it in /etc/rc.d, so you can put it in your DAEMONS array in rc.conf. This way, i think the system will be up and running fine when the script is run and it may mount your drive correctly. You can -- ------------------------------------------- Denis A. Altoe Falqueto ------------------------------------------- George Burns - "I would go out with women my age, but there are no women my age."