On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:33:01 +0100 <hollunder@xxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:31:13 -0300 > Denis Alessandro Altoe Falqueto <denisfalqueto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Sergey Manucharian > > <sergeym@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:03:08 +0100 > > > <hollunder@xxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > .......... > > > > > >> An external drive can be rather reliably identified and always > > >> mounted at the same place using udev. > > >> > > >> This is somewhat problematic on arch linux tough. > > >> For some reason the devices seem not to be created before > > >> mount runs although udev runs before it. > > >> This means that external drives do not get mounted along with all > > >> the other drives specified in fstab. > > >> > > >> I personally wonder what the problem is since this method has > > >> worked on other distributions. > > >> > > >> My workaround is simply another 'mount -a' in rc.local, at this > > >> point in boottime the devices are created. > > >> > > >> Still this doesn't work reliably with one of my drives but this > > >> is a separate problem (slowness). > > >> > > >> Philipp > > >> > > > > > > Folks, you are discussing how to deal with "noob questions" etc., > > > but nobody paid attention to the more "deep" meaning of the > > > initial question arisen by Philipp. > > > > > > I confirm the problem. So, how to mount an external HDD during the > > > system start-up? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Sergey > > > > > > > > > > > > If it is always connected, I would put a line on /etc/fstab so it is > > mounted as any other ordinary partition. > > > > If it is not always connected, I would make a script and put it in > > /etc/rc.d. The script would be responsible to look if the disk is > > attached and mount it. It would be good to use some udev rules to > > make a fixed symlink for the disk, so the script has a fixed target > > to find. > > > > I already do a combination of udev and fstab which doesn't work. > > Old rules that worked on my previous system: > BUS=="usb", KERNEL=="sd?1", SYSFS{idProduct}=="(somenumber)", > SYMLINK+="usbdisk200" > > BUS=="usb", KERNEL=="sd?1", SYSFS{serial}=="(somenumber)", > SYMLINK+="usbdisk400" > > New rules with newer udev syntax: > BUS=="usb", ATTRS{serial}=="(somenumber)", KERNEL=="sd?1", > NAME="%k", SYMLINK+="usbdisk400", GROUP="storage" > > BUS=="usb", ATTRS{idProduct}=="(somenumber)", KERNEL=="sd?1", > NAME="%k", SYMLINK+="usbdisk200", GROUP="storage" > > fstab: > /dev/usbdisk400 /media/disk400 ext3 > rw,nodev,noexec,auto,noatime,async,users 0 0 > > /dev/usbdisk200 /media/disk200 ext3 > rw,nodev,noexec,auto,noatime,async,users 0 0 > > > What happens is that when 'mount -a' is run at boottime it says > that /dev/usbdisk400 and /dev/usbdisk200 doesn't exist, consequently > they don't get mounted. > When rc.local with another 'mount -a' is executed it works (except > that the /dev/usbdisk400 is too slow sometimes). > > I'm looking forward to your ideas about what's happening. > > Best regards, > Philipp I tried some more. This time I specified one of the usb harddrives by UUID. I can mount is, so it works, but at boottime this method doesn't work either. I get: special device UUID=number not found same as I got: special device /dev/usbdisk400 not found So to me this looks like udev is not the problem this time. So what is it, are usb devices not initialised yet when 'mount -a' is run? I added the usb_storage module to the modules array in rc.conf but this didn't change a thing. If I read rc.sysinit correctly the modules are loaded before 'mount -a'. Help is appreciated. Philipp