On 2/18/09, Grigorios Bouzakis <grbzks@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Andrew Przepioski > <aprzepioski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On 2/18/09, Andrew Przepioski <aprzepioski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On 2/18/09, Grigorios Bouzakis <grbzks@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 01:19:18PM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: >>>>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Andrew Przepioski >>>>> <aprzepioski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> > To me, when I was googling about xterm trying to >>>>> > determine why xorg-apps was included, what feature is included with >>>>> > xterm that makes it need xorg-apps, I couldn't find anything >>>>> >>>>> Might be helpful to use namcap in cases like this (gmail will probably >>>>> wrap the output below). Though in the case of xterm, it doesn't help >>>>> us - svn logs would be the next best bet >>>>> >>>>> $ namcap -i /var/cache/pacman/pkg/xterm-241-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz >>>>> xterm E: Dependency detected and not included (libxmu) from files >>>>> ['usr/bin/xterm'] >>>>> xterm E: Dependency detected and not included (bash) from files >>>>> ['usr/bin/koi8rxterm', 'usr/bin/uxterm'] >>>>> xterm W: Dependency included and not needed (libxaw) >>>>> xterm W: Dependency included but already satisfied (ncurses) >>>>> xterm W: Dependency included and not needed (xorg-apps) >>>>> xterm I: Script link detected (bash) in file >>>>> ['usr/bin/koi8rxterm', 'usr/bin/uxterm'] >>>>> xterm I: File ['usr/bin/xterm'] link-level dependence on libxmu >>>>> xterm I: File ['usr/bin/xterm', 'usr/bin/resize'] link-level >>>>> dependence on ncurses >>>>> xterm I: File ['usr/bin/xterm', 'usr/bin/resize'] link-level >>>>> dependence on glibc >>>>> xterm I: File ['usr/bin/xterm'] link-level dependence on libx11 >>>>> xterm I: File ['usr/bin/xterm'] link-level dependence on >>>>> fontconfig >>>>> xterm I: File ['usr/bin/xterm'] link-level dependence on libice >>>>> xterm I: File ['usr/bin/xterm'] link-level dependence on libxt >>>>> xterm I: File ['usr/bin/xterm'] link-level dependence on libxft >>>>> xterm I: File ['usr/bin/koi8rxterm', 'usr/bin/uxterm'] link-level >>>>> dependence on bash >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (zlib) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (expat) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (libxcb) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (inputproto) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (libxau) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (tzdata) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (libxdmcp) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (renderproto) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (glibc) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (fontconfig) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (libice) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (libxt) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (libxext) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (kbproto) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (xextproto) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (ncurses) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (xproto) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (xcb-proto) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (readline) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (kernel-headers) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (freetype2) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (libx11) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (e2fsprogs) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (libxrender) >>>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>>> (libsm) >>>>> xterm I: Depends as namcap sees them: depends=(libxmu bash libxft) >>>>> xterm E: Missing license >>>> >>>> See my comments on http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/7781 >>>> I dont know if google returns results like these, but the bug tracker >>>> search does if you look for xorg-apps, or xterm. >>>> xorg-apps were a dependency for xterm before 230, even if it was >>>> uneeded, >>>> it is also one today. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Greg >>>> >>> >>> Yeah, I bumped into link when I was searching, but it doesn't mention >>> anywhere exactly why xorg-apps is needed for xterm. From what I can >>> see, it just mentions at one part that xorg-apps is a dependency of >>> xterm and would automatically come with it. >>> >>> "Note: "xorg-apps" will be automatically installed as a dependency of >>> "xterm", but I assume that implicitly relying on this sub-dependency >>> to continue to exist in the future would be less preferable than >>> listing it explicitly." >>> >> >> Ah! My bad! I didn't see it down there. :\ >> > > If you dont like the dependency that much, or need space or whatever and > dont > want to build your own package, you can pacman -Rd xorg-apps. xterm doesnt > need xmessage. Only koi8xterm does. > > -- > Greg > Like I said earlier, I just do pacman -Sd xterm because by the time I am installing pacman, I already satisfy the other dependencies and I knew that I didn't use xorg-apps or the feature in xterm that needed xorg-apps, and I was just curious as to what feature of xterm needed xorg-apps. Now I know it's xmessages. Hehe, next time I'll have to read more carefully though because now I see that you clearly said it on the bug report and I just completely ignored the comment section at the bottom, haha, and now I know about numcap, which will hopefully make it easier for me to find the answer to this kind of question next time I notice a dependency that I am not too sure of. Thank-you. :)
