On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Andrew Przepioski <aprzepioski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 2/18/09, Andrew Przepioski <aprzepioski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On 2/18/09, Grigorios Bouzakis <grbzks@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 01:19:18PM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: >>>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Andrew Przepioski >>>> <aprzepioski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> > To me, when I was googling about xterm trying to >>>> > determine why xorg-apps was included, what feature is included with >>>> > xterm that makes it need xorg-apps, I couldn't find anything >>>> >>>> Might be helpful to use namcap in cases like this (gmail will probably >>>> wrap the output below). Though in the case of xterm, it doesn't help >>>> us - svn logs would be the next best bet >>>> >>>> $ namcap -i /var/cache/pacman/pkg/xterm-241-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz >>>> xterm E: Dependency detected and not included (libxmu) from files >>>> ['usr/bin/xterm'] >>>> xterm E: Dependency detected and not included (bash) from files >>>> ['usr/bin/koi8rxterm', 'usr/bin/uxterm'] >>>> xterm W: Dependency included and not needed (libxaw) >>>> xterm W: Dependency included but already satisfied (ncurses) >>>> xterm W: Dependency included and not needed (xorg-apps) >>>> xterm I: Script link detected (bash) in file >>>> ['usr/bin/koi8rxterm', 'usr/bin/uxterm'] >>>> xterm I: File ['usr/bin/xterm'] link-level dependence on libxmu >>>> xterm I: File ['usr/bin/xterm', 'usr/bin/resize'] link-level >>>> dependence on ncurses >>>> xterm I: File ['usr/bin/xterm', 'usr/bin/resize'] link-level >>>> dependence on glibc >>>> xterm I: File ['usr/bin/xterm'] link-level dependence on libx11 >>>> xterm I: File ['usr/bin/xterm'] link-level dependence on fontconfig >>>> xterm I: File ['usr/bin/xterm'] link-level dependence on libice >>>> xterm I: File ['usr/bin/xterm'] link-level dependence on libxt >>>> xterm I: File ['usr/bin/xterm'] link-level dependence on libxft >>>> xterm I: File ['usr/bin/koi8rxterm', 'usr/bin/uxterm'] link-level >>>> dependence on bash >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (zlib) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (expat) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (libxcb) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (inputproto) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (libxau) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (tzdata) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (libxdmcp) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (renderproto) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (glibc) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (fontconfig) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (libice) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (libxt) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (libxext) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (kbproto) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (xextproto) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (ncurses) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (xproto) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (xcb-proto) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (readline) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (kernel-headers) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (freetype2) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (libx11) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (e2fsprogs) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (libxrender) >>>> xterm I: Dependency covered by dependences from link dependence >>>> (libsm) >>>> xterm I: Depends as namcap sees them: depends=(libxmu bash libxft) >>>> xterm E: Missing license >>> >>> See my comments on http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/7781 >>> I dont know if google returns results like these, but the bug tracker >>> search does if you look for xorg-apps, or xterm. >>> xorg-apps were a dependency for xterm before 230, even if it was uneeded, >>> it is also one today. >>> >>> -- >>> Greg >>> >> >> Yeah, I bumped into link when I was searching, but it doesn't mention >> anywhere exactly why xorg-apps is needed for xterm. From what I can >> see, it just mentions at one part that xorg-apps is a dependency of >> xterm and would automatically come with it. >> >> "Note: "xorg-apps" will be automatically installed as a dependency of >> "xterm", but I assume that implicitly relying on this sub-dependency >> to continue to exist in the future would be less preferable than >> listing it explicitly." >> > > Ah! My bad! I didn't see it down there. :\ > If you dont like the dependency that much, or need space or whatever and dont want to build your own package, you can pacman -Rd xorg-apps. xterm doesnt need xmessage. Only koi8xterm does. -- Greg