Hi, i wanted to note that there is http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_Project maintained by bardo a TU, which mentions absolutely nothing about upstream. Instead it says "I (bardo) will write/modify the necessary files and notify the corresponding maintainers so they can be added to the packages." Additionally there are links to the bug tracker. I have no idea if bardo submitts them upstream as well but i doubt it. Greg
