On 11/29/2010 11:25 PM, Travis Whitton wrote:
Hi, We're experiencing some odd behavior regarding connections taking a long time to establish to our website. We've been running Apache in production for over three years now and have recently began experiencing issues where the server-status page, static, and dynamic content response times will slow anywhere from a few seconds to long enough for the connection to timeout. Initially thinking we might be hitting some hard limits with the OS, we've thoroughly audited our sysctl variables, tried disabling iptables and conntrack, and ensured that we're not running out of ephemeral ports or anything along those lines. Looking at netstat, it seems we have a pretty large number of connections in TIME_WAIT which is understandable since this is a high traffic website, but I'm wondering if this value could indicate we're backlogging on TCP connections or something along those lines? [root@RHL073 ipv4]# netstat -an | awk '/^tcp/ {A[$(NF)]++} END {for (I in A) {printf "%5d %s\n", A[I], I}}' 34723 TIME_WAIT 3 CLOSE_WAIT 275 FIN_WAIT1 74 FIN_WAIT2 8824 ESTABLISHED 815 SYN_RECV 102 CLOSING 30 LAST_ACK 10 LISTEN In an effort to tune things, I've tried playing with the TCP timeout settings a bit, and the response times have improved somewhat. Please note that I've been testing response times using the loopback interface to rule out any ethernet hardware issues. echo 15> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_fin_timeout echo 1> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_tw_recycle echo 1> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_tw_reuse We're running prefork, and have configured the client settings to what seem to be reasonable limits for our hardware. <IfModule prefork.c> StartServers 100 MinSpareServers 100 MaxSpareServers 200 ServerLimit 1500 MaxClients 1500 MaxRequestsPerChild 1000000 </IfModule>
Forking new children is VERY expensive, compared to the alternatives.If 1500 concurrent clients is common for your site, consider starting up that many as well.
min/maxspare is only meant to handle bursts, not define your normal load.Your settings mean "accept up to 1500 concurrent connections, but only RUN 300 threads when you don't have that many clients"
Since apache will have to fork up to 1200 threads in rapid succession when the load spikes, this will cause startup throttling after only a few seconds, which is causing your timeouts.
You should change these to AT LEAST 1000 startup, 100 minspare and 200 maxspare - if 1500 is your actual max load, and not a limit you imposed because you think it can't handle more.
It can handle many more, if you have the memory for them.With 1500 concurrent connections, I would long ago have moved to worker combined with proxying dynamic content to a separate prefork instance. This will optimize memory and resource usage to such an extent that you can easily run 5000 clients concurrently.
Worker threads are much more efficient and take far less memory than prefork children, therefore they suffer far less from being short-lived (due to low maxrequest settings)
Unless the majority of these requests are for dynamic content (they rarely are), I predict you can increase performance several fold.
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