On 20/11/2009, at 18:20 , André Warnier wrote:
> Peter N Lewis wrote:
>> I already have:
>> MaxRequestsPerChild 1000
>> So the worker processes should die and clean that out.
>> I'm suspicious that the worker threads are not dieing because I've seen cases where there are worker threads listed in ps but not listed in server-status (that will probably show up tomorrow or the next day when the server has been running a bit longer, and I'll post details of that if I haven't got a response by then).
> You are talking about threads. What MPM are you using, on which platform ?
> Read http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mpm.html
> and try ./httpd -l
slice:/etc/apache2# /usr/sbin/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/apache2.conf -l
Compiled in modules:
core.c
mod_log_config.c
mod_logio.c
worker.c
http_core.c
mod_so.c
> All this is still a plaster over a real issue though. The real issue is that some module is leaking memory, and you should really find out which one and go from there. There may be an alternate module available or not, depending on the case.
My suspicion is it is more that it is leaking processes or threads that then never get tidied up. But I certainly could be wrong.
And at this point, I'll be happy to take some plaster - my site is not going to be so heavily used that I need more than plaster. I would like a better solution that frequent graceful restarts.
> It may also just be an application, not a Perl library module, that leaks memory. I would consider that in fact much more likely.
> What /are/ your "mod_perl pages" and what do they do ?
> Is there any possibility to narrow down the search to some likely suspects ?
> In the order of probabilities for memory leaks, I would consider, from most to least likely culprits :
> 1) perl application modules/pages
> 2) perl standard library modules handling XML
> 3) other perl standard library modules
> 4) Apache standard modules
> 5) Apache core code
Any suggestions on how to find it?
Here is what I find interesting. After leaving it for another day, I now have worker processes that are not listed in the server status.
root 19962 0.0 3.3 193708 17776 ? Ss Nov19 0:43 /usr/sbin/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/apache2.conf -k start
www-data 21837 0.0 3.4 531796 18088 ? Sl Nov20 0:07 /usr/sbin/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/apache2.conf -k start
www-data 21995 0.0 11.9 813848 62892 ? Sl Nov20 0:05 /usr/sbin/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/apache2.conf -k start
www-data 22023 0.0 7.5 737104 39496 ? Sl Nov20 0:04 /usr/sbin/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/apache2.conf -k start
www-data 22046 0.0 6.5 826992 34336 ? Sl Nov20 0:05 /usr/sbin/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/apache2.conf -k start
www-data 22079 0.0 3.6 837788 19304 ? Sl Nov20 0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/apache2.conf -k start
www-data 22842 0.0 12.8 661912 67228 ? Sl Nov20 0:06 /usr/sbin/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/apache2.conf -k start
www-data 23370 0.0 10.6 458444 55696 ? Sl Nov20 0:09 /usr/sbin/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/apache2.conf -k start
www-data 23613 0.1 11.2 520912 58932 ? Sl 02:00 0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/apache2.conf -k start
Processes 21837, 21995, 22842 are not listed in the server status.
Surely that is something quite wrong? If I kill those processes, I get back a significant amount of memory:
slice:/var/log/apache2# free -m
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 512 505 6 0 3 147
-/+ buffers/cache: 354 157
Swap: 1023 256 767
slice:/var/log/apache2# kill -9 21837 21995 22842
slice:/var/log/apache2# free -m
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 512 399 112 0 3 147
-/+ buffers/cache: 249 263
Swap: 1023 188 835
Still very confused.
Thanks,
Peter.
Server status is below.
Apache Server Status for www.stairways.com
Server Version: Apache/2.2.9 (Debian) mod_perl/2.0.4 Perl/v5.10.0
Server Built: Jul 14 2009 20:40:18
Current Time: Saturday, 21-Nov-2009 02:07:55 UTC
Restart Time: Thursday, 19-Nov-2009 02:39:50 UTC
Parent Server Generation: 0
Server uptime: 1 day 23 hours 28 minutes 5 seconds
Total accesses: 66968 - Total Traffic: 2.2 GB
CPU Usage: u17.53 s2.92 cu0 cs0 - .012% CPU load
.392 requests/sec - 13.4 kB/second - 34.2 kB/request
2 requests currently being processed, 48 idle workers
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"W" Sending Reply, "K" Keepalive (read), "D" DNS Lookup,
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