If that tool can't do absolutely everything, than it is an evil tool for the beginners because it will make them think that what it can do is everything Apache can do, or they won't care that there are possible more advanced configurations, which is not good.
It is just like a kind of beeing pleased with what Ruby on Rails can do, without reaching to know how more things Catalyst framework can.
Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "Krist van Besien" <krist.vanbesien@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:44 PMSubject: Re: Re: GUI for configuring Apache httpd by editing httpd.conf
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Peter Schober <peter.schober@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:It's certainly not for me. But other than stating the reasons why I think this is not practical and helpful in the real world, why should I try to convice others to /not/ write duch a thing? Because "some things should not be easy"?Thinks should be easy. That is the point. Given the aim of the apache webserver, and its intended audience the current way of configuring apache is by far the easiest. Apache is a tool for webserver admins, not for average computer users. With apache if I need to explain to one of our operators how to deploy a change to all our webservers all I need to know is if said person has basic unix knowledge (which is the case, or we wouldn't let them near our servers) and all I need to provide in my workorder is "copy atached file to /etc/apache2/sites_available and then execute apache2ctl graceful. With a gui I either need to know if the target of my workorder is familiar whith the gui, and if I'm not sure I have no other option of writing a complete walk through, with screenshots. That I consider a waste of my time. So my preference for the command line and text files has nothing to do with elitism or nostalgia. It has everything to do with two things that are very important in a production environment: Simplicity and repeatability. Krist -- krist.vanbesien@xxxxxxxxx krist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Bremgarten b. Bern, Switzerland -- A: It reverses the normal flow of conversation. Q: What's wrong with top-posting? A: Top-posting. Q: What's the biggest scourge on plain text email discussions? --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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