Re: Apache 2 problems with spawning processes

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hi, thanks for reply.

I will set now keepalive to off and check how it will work.
MaxKeepAliveRequests that i set was for testing. I usually use default
value 100.

I will inform you how server is going with disabled keepalive.

Regards, Ali Nebi!

On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 21:44 +0530, ganesh ganesh wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Without complete interrogation i wont be able to provide you the exact
> answer.. but the immediate suggestion i can suggest you is disable the
> KeepAlive:
> 
> KeepAlive Off 
> 
> and restart your apache... let me know how it goes...  also the max
> keepalive reqeust  is i think a bit too much taking in to
> consideration no of child process that can be spawned based on the
> parents
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Ganesh,
> ganesh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:48 PM, anebi@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> <anebi@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>         Hi,
>         
>         we have installed apache 2 on centos 5 system and we have a
>         big problem
>         with spawning too much child processes. These are the versions
>         that we
>         use:
>         
>         
>         Centos 5.2 x86_64
>         httpd-2.2.8-jason.3
>         php-5.2.6-1.el5.remi
>         mysql-5.0.45-7.el5
>         
>         System has 2xquat processor (total 8 cores) and 16 GB RAM
>         
>         
>         We have this configuration for prefork MPM and timeouts:
>         
>         #
>         # Timeout: The number of seconds before receives and sends
>         time out.
>         #
>         Timeout 100
>         
>         #
>         # KeepAlive: Whether or not to allow persistent connections
>         (more than
>         # one request per connection). Set to "Off" to deactivate.
>         #
>         KeepAlive On
>         
>         #
>         # MaxKeepAliveRequests: The maximum number of requests to
>         allow
>         # during a persistent connection. Set to 0 to allow an
>         unlimited amount.
>         # We recommend you leave this number high, for maximum
>         performance.
>         #
>         MaxKeepAliveRequests 500
>         
>         #
>         # KeepAliveTimeout: Number of seconds to wait for the next
>         request from
>         the
>         # same client on the same connection.
>         #
>         KeepAliveTimeout 2
>         
>         ##
>         ## Server-Pool Size Regulation (MPM specific)
>         ##
>         
>         # prefork MPM
>         # StartServers: number of server processes to start
>         # MinSpareServers: minimum number of server processes which
>         are kept
>         spare
>         # MaxSpareServers: maximum number of server processes which
>         are kept
>         spare
>         # ServerLimit: maximum value for MaxClients for the lifetime
>         of the
>         server
>         # MaxClients: maximum number of server processes allowed to
>         start
>         # MaxRequestsPerChild: maximum number of requests a server
>         process
>         serves
>         <IfModule prefork.c>
>         StartServers       5
>         MinSpareServers    5
>         MaxSpareServers   20
>         ServerLimit      250
>         MaxClients       250
>         MaxRequestsPerChild  5000
>         </IfModule>
>         
>         Apache and mysql works fine around 20 hours, and then in some
>         moment
>         apache start to spawn a lot of processes until stop to handle
>         requests.
>         
>         I checked with top,mytop,apachetop our system and what i saw
>         is this.
>         When this happen apachetop (parse server-status result) shows
>         that there
>         are a lot of requests with "W" mode and at the same time i see
>         a lot of
>         not finished threads and queries in mytop (run time monitoring
>         of
>         mysql).
>         
>         In top and other system monitoring tools i see that memory is
>         ok. There
>         is enough free memory. System does not swap, but CPU usage
>         from mysql
>         and apache is getting too high. Apache is spawning and mysql
>         cannot
>         handle these requests. It use also too much CPU during this
>         time.
>         
>         What i cannot understand is why there are so many requests
>         with "W" mode
>         in server-status page. Of course this is not happen every
>         time. Maybe 2
>         times per day, but i need to find out why this happen and to
>         try to fix
>         this problem.
>         
>         What can be the problem, how to troubleshoot this and
>         undestand what
>         exactly happens?
>         
>         Thanks in advanced!
>         
>         Regards, Ali Nebi!
>         
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