On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Joseph S D Yao <jsdy@xxxxxxx> wrote: > I did figure someone would point out that I'd said more words than those > in the last entry. I really don't want to add any more to this topic. > If anyone else can stand up and say that THEY have admin'ed Unix, Linux, > BSD, etc. for over 35 years, and NEVER seen a mistake made worse because > the person making the mistake was su'ed or sudo'ed to root, then I will > applaud that person's good luck - SILENTLY. In the end always make backups. I've in my career (only 15 years) once deleted files as root by accident. But it has only happened once, and it was in the first year of my career. BTW, I'm impressed that you were already admin'ing Unix when there were only a few hundred installations worldwide... A lot of things can go wrong. A lot of things are run as root even when it's not obvious. I've seen a system thoroughly wrecked by a typing error in a postinstall script included in a sun package. Luckily this was a test system, and it was exactly to catch such things that the package was installed on a test system first. That's how you do it in a real production environment. I don't edit httpd.conf on any production server. I do it on an integration machine, ship a package to a test machine, and if it passes the tests (executed by someone else) it goes on production. Krist -- krist.vanbesien@xxxxxxxxx krist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Bremgarten b. Bern, Switzerland -- A: It reverses the normal flow of conversation. Q: What's wrong with top-posting? A: Top-posting. Q: What's the biggest scourge on plain text email discussions? --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx