$quoted_author = "steve" ; > > not 100% sure, ive never done it, (using deb etch stock install) before > i accidentely deleted the logs, there was 28 of them, all but 2 were .gz > and the other 2 were access.log and access.log.1 the only one apache > ever wrote to was the .1 one. i made access.log and access.log.1 but > apache wrote for a short time to access.log, now does not. root owns > the apache2 folder and both logs. it writes to the error log fine. im can you show as the output of an 'ls -l' in your log directory? and the output of 'lsof | grep -i apache' before and after apache stops logging? > sure its not wise to keep removing apache2 and keep re installing it right?? it's not really a workable solution, no. :-) cheers marty -- "It takes only one drink to get me drunk. The trouble is, I can't remember if it's the thirteenth or the fourteenth." - George Burns --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx