good morning, this is not a huge deal, but more frustrating than anything i have encountered with linux. i cannot seem to get this right, apache2 cannot write to access log files in /var/log/apache2/. the error log is still churning along fine. i have checked permissions, all files inside apache2 folder are all 640, owned by root, and root file group. the apache folder itself is owned by root, and root filegroup 640. i have custom log directive in virtual server config to create a separate access log for 4 sites. it does not even create the custom logs when i restart apache. i tried making the logs myself with the correct permissions, and apache still will not write to them. as a last resort, i removed apache and reinstalled....... perfect! apache was now writing again to the access logs...... BUT for only a short time then stopped AGAIN! good lord, what is going on here? I changed nothing since reinstalling apache2. the only thing i did was re install php5. my question is what is the correct permissions for the access.log itself, and also for the apache2 folder within /var/log? anything ive ever read said as long as www-data can write to it, all should be fine. its obvious www-data can write to /var/log/apache2 because it is doing so with error.log right now. virtual server config is here http://pastebin.com/m78d73772 thanks for your help! steve --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx