Thanks for the additional insight. I think I have gotten past the startup error. I cp'd /private/etc/httpd/httpd.conf to httpd.conf.bak. I then restarted apache and the new installation seems to work. However I have a couple questions. I am using the following command line to start the server: ap0041-macosx:/usr/local/apache2 arthurpesa$ sudo /usr/local/apache2/bin/apachectl -k graceful Password: ap0041-macosx:/usr/local/apache2 arthurpesa$ which apachectl /usr/sbin/apachectl ap0041-macosx:/usr/local/apache2 arthurpesa$ which httpd /usr/sbin/httpd ap0041-macosx:/usr/local/apache2 arthurpesa$ As you can see which returns the old version of httpd and apachectl. However in logs/error.log it claims: [Wed May 16 10:45:15 2007] [notice] Graceful restart requested, doing restart [Wed May 16 10:45:15 2007] [notice] Apache/2.2.4 (Unix) configured -- resuming normal operations Also, the pid in logs/httpd.pid has the same pid as found in the activity monitor for the process httpd, pid = 249. So, it seems to work. I am now looking at a permission to access problem. The Sites folder which is my web root gives me a 403 error: [Wed May 16 10:51:44 2007] [error] [client 192.168.15.104] client denied by server configuration: /Users/arthurpesa/public_html The error is obvious, but where to fix it in the conf file is not. If you have any suggestions I would appreciate them. I thought about starting a new thread, but was hoping this is simple enough. Thanks, -Pat On 5/16/07 10:01 AM, "Robert T Wyatt" <robert.wyatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > What is "shutting down" is the new instance, not the already-running > instance. > > Try using "graceful" instead of "start"; if it is already running this > might restart it assuming they are the same program (both version 2 > and not the factory installed version 1). > > You might also try using the lsof command to determine whether > something else (like QuickTime Streaming Server) is using port 80. > > > Arthur Pesa wrote: >> Thanks, >> I compiled and installed apache2.2.4 in usr/local/apache2 (by default). I >> have disabled Web Sharing in prefs from the start. After the install and >> initial start command I noticed it was using the httpd.conf file from >> private/etc/httpd (this is shipped from Apple and will start apache version >> 1.3.3). I also noticed this was the version of apache that was running. I >> killed those pids in activity monitor and then issued the following command >> to start apache. >> >> ap0041-macosx:/usr/local/apache2 arthurpesa$ sudo >> /usr/local/apache2/bin/apachectl -f /usr/local/apache2/conf/httpd.conf -k >> start >> (48)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80 >> (48)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80 >> no listening sockets available, shutting down >> Unable to open logs >> ap0041-macosx:/usr/local/apache2 arthurpesa$ >> >> As you can see it claims to be shutting down, but it actually is running. I >> know this because I have a page that generates a 403 access error and in the >> resulting apache access error page it states the version as apache 2.2.4. >> >> Sorry for the long response and thanks for your help, >> -Pat >> >> >> On 5/16/07 9:21 AM, "Robert T Wyatt" <robert.wyatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Arthur Pesa wrote: >>>> I have downloaded and compiled apache 2.2.4 on my Mac Powerbook G4 OS X >>>> 10.4.9. I did not make any significant changes to the httpd.conf file >>>> initially. I started the server and it error¹d on startup with the >>>> following messages in terminal. I am not getting anything relevant to >>>> this error in logs/error.log. >>>> >>>> (48)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80 >>>> (48)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80 >>>> >>>> Also, I am able to see httpd processes in activity monitor, but they >>>> have different pid¹s than the one found in logs/httpd.pid. I am assuming >>>> those are processes started by the shipped version of apache from Apple, >>>> which I would like to disable but don¹t quite know how. To start the >>>> apache server I am using the full path to the new apache installation as >>>> well as the apachectl f to pass the location and file name of the >>>> httpd.conf file I want to use. >>>> >>>> Changes to conf/httpd.conf >>>> Servername 127.0.0.1 as well as my IP-( not at the same time) >>>> ServerAdmin (my email address) >>>> DocumentRoot (my Sites Folder at ³/users/arthurpesa/Sites²) >>>> >>>> I have not changed anything else yet. Any insight is greatly appreciated, >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Pat >>> You can disable the built in httpd by going to your system prefs file >>>> sharing > disable web sharing. >>> You can check which httpd and apachectl are being used with (in >>> Terminal.app): >>> which httpd >>> which apachectl >>> >>> How/where did you install 2.2.4? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. > See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. 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