Thanks for the reply -- at least knowing this is abnormal is a step in the right direction. By "standard debian packages," I mean I am using unmodified packages from the stable distribution of debian; no backports, no recompiled packages. The package version is 2.0.54-5, which is the latest version available from the official debian stable repository. I would implement mod_status, except that once MaxClients is reached, won't mod_status be useless, since it relies on being able to serve a page via HTTP? Or will mod_status work regardless? -----Original Message----- From: jslive@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:jslive@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joshua Slive Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:35 PM To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Why the sudden need to raise MaxClients? On 2/20/06, Sage Weaver <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I am having this exact same problem. I'm also using standard debian > packages for Apache 2.0.54, and the prefork MPM, except my MaxClients > setting is already set to 512. > > The minute I hit 513 apache2 processes (listed in "ps -C apache2", the > server stops responding entirely. Those processes seem to never close. > The only way to fix it is to reload Apache via "/etc/init.d/apache2 > restart" Well, "standard debian packages" mean nothing to me. And given the fact that it is being reported by two debian users, I suspect it is something in there that is causing the problem. What you are reporting is certainly not normal behavior. You can use mod_status's server-status handler to at least see what the processes are doing. Joshua. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx