On 24/04/17 10:03 PM, Ville Syrjälä wrote: > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 03:57:02PM +0900, Michel Dänzer wrote: >> On 22/04/17 07:05 PM, Ville Syrjälä wrote: >>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 06:14:31PM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>>>> My personal opinion is that formats in drm_fourcc.h should be >>>>>> independent of the CPU byte order and the function >>>>>> drm_mode_legacy_fb_format() and drivers depending on that incorrect >>>>>> assumption be fixed instead. >>>>> >>>>> The problem is this isn't a kernel-internal thing any more. With the >>>>> addition of the ADDFB2 ioctl the fourcc codes became part of the >>>>> kernel/userspace abi ... >>>> >>>> Ok, added some printk's to the ADDFB and ADDFB2 code paths and tested a >>>> bit. Apparently pretty much all userspace still uses the ADDFB ioctl. >>>> xorg (modesetting driver) does. gnome-shell in wayland mode does. >>>> Seems the big transition to ADDFB2 didn't happen yet. >>>> >>>> I guess that makes changing drm_mode_legacy_fb_format + drivers a >>>> reasonable option ... >>> >>> Yeah, I came to the same conclusion after chatting with some >>> folks on irc. >>> >>> So my current idea is that we change any driver that wants to follow the >>> CPU endianness >> >> This isn't really optional for various reasons, some of which have been >> covered in this discussion. >> >> >>> to declare support for big endian formats if the CPU is >>> big endian. Presumably these are mostly the virtual GPU drivers. >>> >>> Additonally we'll make the mapping performed by drm_mode_legacy_fb_format() >>> driver controlled. That way drivers that got changed to follow CPU >>> endianness can return a framebuffer that matches CPU endianness. And >>> drivers that expect the GPU endianness to not depend on the CPU >>> endianness will keep working as they do now. The downside is that users >>> of the legacy addfb ioctl will need to magically know which endianness >>> they will get, but that is apparently already the case. And users of >>> addfb2 will keep on specifying the endianness explicitly with >>> DRM_FORMAT_BIG_ENDIAN vs. 0. >> >> I'm afraid it's not that simple. >> >> The display hardware of older (pre-R600 generation) Radeon GPUs does not >> support the "big endian" formats directly. In order to allow userspace >> to access pixel data in native endianness with the CPU, we instead use >> byte-swapping functionality which only affects CPU access. > > OK, I'm getting confused. Based on our irc discussion I got the > impression you don't byte swap CPU accesses. Sorry for the confusion. The radeon kernel driver does support byte-swapping for CPU access to VRAM with pre-R600 GPUs, and this is used for fbdev emulation. What I meant on IRC is that the xf86-video-ati radeon driver doesn't make use of this, mostly because it only applies while a BO is in VRAM, and userspace can't control when that's the case (while a BO isn't being scanned out). > But since you do, how do you deal with mixing 8bpp vs. 16bpp vs. 32bpp? The byte-swapping is configured per-BO via the RADEON_TILING_SWAP_16/32BIT flags. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer | http://www.amd.com Libre software enthusiast | Mesa and X developer