On Thu, 2 Sep 2010, Clemens Ladisch wrote: > Jaroslav Kysela wrote: >> On Thu, 2 Sep 2010, David Henningsson wrote: >>> Interesting. I went looking into the snd_mixer_selem_* documentation (PA >>> uses the simple mixer interface), but I couldn't find a function for >>> determining whether a control is user-defined or not, would you mind >>> pointing me to it? Thanks! >> >> This logic is bad. We can have user-defined controls for the user space >> drivers or daemons. >> >> The additional flag to mixer open functions - as proposed by Takashi - is >> more appropriate in this case when there is a system handling the software >> volume itself. But the question is quite same: How we can distinguish the >> software volume control? I think that some TLV information might do this >> job well. > > I think applications should not be required to distinguish software > controls. > > The problem is that PA tries to use this control although it is inactive. > The obvious solution is that this control should be marked as inactive, > and that the softvol plugin marks it active only while actually running. It's nice idea. > What is the reason for alsactl not trying to restore inactive controls? Most (maybe all - need to check drivers) of inactive control values are reset to the original value when they're going to the active state. Maybe we need to add another flag - inactive but persistent. Jaroslav ----- Jaroslav Kysela <perex@xxxxxxxx> Linux Kernel Sound Maintainer ALSA Project, Red Hat, Inc. _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel