At Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:04:22 +0200, Mads Kiilerich wrote: > > Takashi Iwai wrote, On 07/27/2009 08:14 AM: > > At Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:39:28 +0200, > > Mads Kiilerich wrote: > > > >> Takashi Iwai wrote, On 07/26/2009 10:50 AM: > >> > >>> At Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:54:24 +0200, > >>> Mads Kiilerich wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> On a friends FUJITSU SIEMENS AMILO Li3710 10601011427 sound didn't work > >>>> with kernel-PAE-2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i686 > >>>> > >>>> > >>> How about with the latest alsa-driver snapshot? > >>> ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/snapshot/alsa-driver-snapshot.tar.gz > >>> > >>> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> I looked at your sound-2.6.git tree and found no quirk for this card > >> (AFAICS) and assumed that it hadn't been reported and fixed yet. > >> > > When no quirk is set, the automatic mode is used as default. > > And, it's possible that the automatic mode has been fixed in the > > upstream. That's why I asked to test with the latest one. > > We should avoid any device-specific quirk as much as possible, but > > rather fix the automatic parser. > > > > Ok, if you think that would be possible. I assumed that it was broken > beond repair. > > >> I am a developer, but for alsa I am a user, no expert, and honestly I > >> don't plan to become one. Can you give a pointer to a description of how > >> can I test the snapshot? On Fedora 11? > >> > >> (http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page has a "How do I > >> install the ALSA driver from source" link, but it just points to the > >> download page without any explanation.) > >> > > Did you take a look at INSTALL file in alsa-driver? > > > > alsa-driver-snapshot.tar.gz README says "integrated to 2.6+ kernels", so > I assumed that this somehow only applied to 2.4 - which obviously would > be very strange. A word "integration" doesn't mean to exclude the update possibility at all. Also, when the driver is built as a module, it can be replaced even dynamically. > I missed the big overview. It seems like it would have been helpful to > me (and the next guy) if something like the following blurb could be > found somewhere - in README or INSTALL or from the "How do I install the > ALSA driver from source" link or on > http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Driver_Compilation : > > "ALSA project develops both Linux kernel drivers as well as support > libraries and tools for user-space. The kernel drivers are also included > in vanilla Linux kernels, and usually the stock drivers are fine and > should be used. It is however also possible to build the alsa-driver > kernel modules for an existing compiled kernel and replace its drivers, > for example from alsa-driver-snapshot.tar.gz to get the latest ALSA > development and fixes. Note that the modules will have to be rebuild > when a new kernel is installed." > > > INSTALL is very demotivating for use with distribution kernels. It would > be helpful if you could add something like: > > "On Fedora 11 (with PAE kernels) it works fine, but you need the package > kernel-PAE-devel of the same version as the running kernel-PAE." > > http://www.linlap.com/wiki/configuring+the+audio+and+updating+alsa+for+fedora+10 > might also be helpful. > > I assume something similar applies to Suse. Patches are welcome :) > >>> Also, please give alsa-info.sh output. Run with --no-upload and attach > >>> the generated file. > >>> > >>> > >> I became aware of that command after having visited my friend. I have > >> output of dmesg and lshal and lspci - is that sufficient? > >> > > No > > Ok, thanks for the hints to help me understand. > > I will try alsa-drivers-snapshot and alsa-info.sh next time I get access > to that computer - that will probably take more than a month. OK, let me know any results. thanks, Takashi _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
