Takashi Iwai wrote, On 07/27/2009 08:14 AM: > At Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:39:28 +0200, > Mads Kiilerich wrote: > >> Takashi Iwai wrote, On 07/26/2009 10:50 AM: >> >>> At Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:54:24 +0200, >>> Mads Kiilerich wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On a friends FUJITSU SIEMENS AMILO Li3710 10601011427 sound didn't work >>>> with kernel-PAE-2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i686 >>>> >>>> >>> How about with the latest alsa-driver snapshot? >>> ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/snapshot/alsa-driver-snapshot.tar.gz >>> >>> >> Thanks. >> >> I looked at your sound-2.6.git tree and found no quirk for this card >> (AFAICS) and assumed that it hadn't been reported and fixed yet. >> > When no quirk is set, the automatic mode is used as default. > And, it's possible that the automatic mode has been fixed in the > upstream. That's why I asked to test with the latest one. > We should avoid any device-specific quirk as much as possible, but > rather fix the automatic parser. > Ok, if you think that would be possible. I assumed that it was broken beond repair. >> I am a developer, but for alsa I am a user, no expert, and honestly I >> don't plan to become one. Can you give a pointer to a description of how >> can I test the snapshot? On Fedora 11? >> >> (http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page has a "How do I >> install the ALSA driver from source" link, but it just points to the >> download page without any explanation.) >> > Did you take a look at INSTALL file in alsa-driver? > alsa-driver-snapshot.tar.gz README says "integrated to 2.6+ kernels", so I assumed that this somehow only applied to 2.4 - which obviously would be very strange. I missed the big overview. It seems like it would have been helpful to me (and the next guy) if something like the following blurb could be found somewhere - in README or INSTALL or from the "How do I install the ALSA driver from source" link or on http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Driver_Compilation : "ALSA project develops both Linux kernel drivers as well as support libraries and tools for user-space. The kernel drivers are also included in vanilla Linux kernels, and usually the stock drivers are fine and should be used. It is however also possible to build the alsa-driver kernel modules for an existing compiled kernel and replace its drivers, for example from alsa-driver-snapshot.tar.gz to get the latest ALSA development and fixes. Note that the modules will have to be rebuild when a new kernel is installed." INSTALL is very demotivating for use with distribution kernels. It would be helpful if you could add something like: "On Fedora 11 (with PAE kernels) it works fine, but you need the package kernel-PAE-devel of the same version as the running kernel-PAE." http://www.linlap.com/wiki/configuring+the+audio+and+updating+alsa+for+fedora+10 might also be helpful. I assume something similar applies to Suse. >>> Also, please give alsa-info.sh output. Run with --no-upload and attach >>> the generated file. >>> >>> >> I became aware of that command after having visited my friend. I have >> output of dmesg and lshal and lspci - is that sufficient? >> > No Ok, thanks for the hints to help me understand. I will try alsa-drivers-snapshot and alsa-info.sh next time I get access to that computer - that will probably take more than a month. /Mads _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel