Re: [PATCH] ASoC: Intel: haswell: Power transition refactor

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On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 12:12 PM Cezary Rojewski
<cezary.rojewski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On 2020-06-19 8:24 PM, Curtis Malainey wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 1:34 AM Cezary Rojewski
> > <cezary.rojewski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2020-06-19 3:21 AM, Curtis Malainey wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 6:19 PM Pierre-Louis Bossart
> >>> <pierre-louis.bossart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>
> >>> We reverted this patch locally due to regressions and raised the issue
> >>> with Cezary on Github, we got no response.
> >>>
> >>> Curtis
> >>>> 8ec7d6043263ecf250b9b7c0dd8ade899487538a is the first bad commit
> >>>> commit 8ec7d6043263ecf250b9b7c0dd8ade899487538a
> >>>> Author: Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Date:   Mon Mar 30 21:45:20 2020 +0200
> >>>>
> >>>>        ASoC: Intel: haswell: Power transition refactor
> >>>>
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> This is the very first time I see hear about the issue. You raised no
> >> issue Curtis, instead, you did write a comment mentioning me in Closed
> >> thread thesofproject/linux which isn't even the driver issue relates to.
> > That thread was directed to getting that fixed, you were active on the
> > thread, regardless of whether the repo is or not. The bugs fell past
> > their SLOs that were sent to your team through issue trackers which
> > meant your team was not responding.
> >>
> >> If you scroll up a bit, in the very same thread there is a message
> >> notifying about official path for such issues. Said message was ack'ed
> >> by management before posting and that's why it's split from technical
> >> explanation.
> > And if you scroll down you see this comment from Ross
> > https://github.com/thesofproject/linux/pull/1842#issuecomment-606232124
> > We both attended meetings with your team where this request was
> > ignored. It took you only a couple of days to fix once we took this
> > approach yet it sat in the backlog for months. Forgive me if I have
> > little faith in your "official path." This was a major blocker for us
> > and it sat untouched.
> >>
> >> We've received no response from Harsha and Cedrik about the issue being
> >> risen. Official HSD-ticket is left unchanged since my feedback from 3rd
> >> April.
> > When someone tags you in a comment it is your job to read it as a
> > Github developer, regardless of the status of the thread.
> >>
> >> Help me help you - don't wait until problem escalates. Adhere to
> >> official protocols, notify early and stay in contact. Last time when
> >> your 'SOF github-IntelSST BDW' ticket finally did arrive at my desk, I
> >> drove back to campus, borrowed the only SAMUS we have and by the end of
> >> the week, the problem was fixed. Monday Mar30 you had the official
> >> response and patches applied.
> > Yes, after months of trying to get this fixed through the "official
> > path" and failing. Don't let the issue escalate outside the trackers
> > in the first place. Be active and respond to high priority requests. I
> > still have yet to see a response from intel regarding a solution on
> > any of the bugs regarding this issue. Our PM pinged Carol many times
> > during the course of getting this fixed with no response. I don't see
> > why I should post there when posting here clearly got a quicker
> > response. In fact your are actually CCed on the bug where the revert
> > was posted and you didn't even respond. Don't feed me lines.
> >>
> >> I've forwarded your issue to required entities within Intel so issue is
> >> tracked appropriately.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Czarek
>
> Let's make something clear - none of people from our companies found on
> the list who actively post changes or review them are decisive. Neither
> me nor you, Liam and Pierre and whoever else you find missing. That's
> the truth.
Agreed
>
>  From Intel's perspective, I'm a resource. And those usually work with
> priority list in mind. If I were to take request from every mention/
> tag/ CC/ To, you'd be waiting at least till Feb next year as that's
> roughly my current schedule. Under no circumstances treat SOF github or
> google-partner account as mean for assigning Intel's resources to fit
> your needs.
This is a matter of philosophy but I do disagree with this given that
we have no access to your trackers but you do to ours, so that makes
bug tracking hard if we won't unify on a single bug. There has to be
collaboration somewhere.
> You may have different deal with OTC but I'm not even part of SOF
> project team Curtis, thesofproject/linux isn't in my scope. If you
> insist on details, my github account was added to SOF project to help
> them deliver probe feature for you guys. When in need, priority list is
> shifted and resources are allocated where necessary. So, considering
> I've been helping at least 8 diff projects within past months, these
> should demand my full attention daily from then on?
Project balancing is part of the job. I balance a similar workload but
does that mean that bugs can go unanswered. Acking is still better
than silence.
>
> No. That's management job - deal with issue prioritization as they see
> fit. I cannot speak for Harsha's, Cedrik's or Carol's teams and won't be
> defending them here. If what you say is true, it's sad official path
> failed so badly.
>
> Thanks for being honest though, Curtis. I prefer facing the truth
> upfront. While as a dev lead I cannot escalate anything myself really,
> I'll certainly make sure your message is sound for those who can.
Thanks for propagating this information.

Curtis
>
> Regards,
> Czarek



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