Re: [RFC PATCH 02/16] ASoC: pcm512x: use "sclk" string to retrieve clock

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On 4/15/20 6:36 AM, Mark Brown wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 03:13:01PM -0500, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
On 4/14/20 2:50 PM, Mark Brown wrote:

It's not just DT platforms that I'm worried about here, it's also ACPI
systems - all it takes is for a system to have a second device and a
name collision could happen, especially with such generic names.  We
tried to avoid doing this for board files for the same reason.

I am on the paranoid side but here I don't see much potential for conflicts:

a) this only works for the Up2 board with a HAT connector
b) this only work with the Hifiberry DAC+ PRO board.

This codec is not used in any traditional client devices.

That's what you're doing right now but someone else can use the same
devices, or adopt the same approaches on something like a Chromebook.

My understanding is that ACPI just doesn't have clock bindings (or audio
bindings or...) so you're basically using board files here and board
files can definitely do more than we're seeing here.

I don't understand your definition of board file, sorry. We've never had
one, the only thing that's board-specific is the machine driver.

Architectures that don't have firmware bindings use straight C code to
register and set things up.  Machine drivers are essentially board
files, they're just audio specific bits of board file that use audio
APIs and so are in the sound directory.

Humm, we may have a conceptual disconnect here. In the ACPI world, there is no support for the machine driver - unlike Device Tree. It is probed when the SST/SOF driver creates a platform device using the codec _HID as a key to hard-coded lookup tables in sound/soc/intel/common/soc-acpi*.c - it will be probed *after* the codec driver probes. I really don't see how to use the machine driver as currently implemented to establish board-level connections that would influence the codec driver probe and its use of a clock.


You should be able to register links between devices using the clock
API, or add that functionality if it's not there but AFAIK clkdev still
works.

The machine driver has no information whatsoever on who provides the clock.
I just don't see how I might link stuff without at least some amount of
information?

The machine driver must have this information, it knows exactly what
hardware it runs on.  The whole point of a machine driver is that it's
board specific.

All I needed was to toggle 2 gpios to select 44.1 or 48kHz...Looks like it's
going to take two more years, oh well.

I think you're giving up way too easily here.  The kernel has really
good support for systems that don't have any firmware description at
all, this shouldn't be complex or breaking new ground.

See above, I don't think the machine driver can do what you had in mind?

I don't see how to proceed unless we remove all support for ACPI, both for codec and clock driver, and trigger their probe "manually" with a board-level initialization.

And btw there's already a precedent for using global names, it's what the Skylake driver does for the mclk and ssp clocks. To the best of my knowledge the device specific namespacing does not exist on any ACPI platform. We have a request from Dialog to implement the same thing for SOF to solve dependencies on the clock being stable before turning on the codec, so if global names are not acceptable we have a real problem.




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