Re: [RFC PATCH 02/16] ASoC: pcm512x: use "sclk" string to retrieve clock

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On 4/14/20 2:50 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 02:15:16PM -0500, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
On 4/14/20 1:27 PM, Mark Brown wrote:

Wait, so SCLK is in the *global* namespace and the provider has to
register the same name?  That doesn't sound clever.  It might be better
to have the board register the connection from the clock provider to the
device rather than hard code global namespace strings like this, that
sounds like a recipie for misery.

I believe this change has zero impact on DT platforms.

The 'sclk' is a fallback here. If you find a clock with the NULL string,
it's what gets used. Likewise for the clock provider, the 'sclk' is a lookup
- an alias in other words. The use of the references and phandles should
work just fine for Device Tree.

It's not just DT platforms that I'm worried about here, it's also ACPI
systems - all it takes is for a system to have a second device and a
name collision could happen, especially with such generic names.  We
tried to avoid doing this for board files for the same reason.

I am on the paranoid side but here I don't see much potential for conflicts:

a) this only works for the Up2 board with a HAT connector
b) this only work with the Hifiberry DAC+ PRO board.

This codec is not used in any traditional client devices.


It is really sad that nobody involved in producing these systems that
don't work with the current limitations in ACPI has been able to make
progress on improving ACPI so it can cope with modern hardware and we're
having to deal with this stuff.

I can't disagree but I have to live with what's available to me as an audio
guy...I had a solution two years ago where I could set the clock directly
from the machine driver. The recommendation at the time was to use the clk
framework, but that clk framework is limited for ACPI platforms, so we can
only use it with these global names.

My understanding is that ACPI just doesn't have clock bindings (or audio
bindings or...) so you're basically using board files here and board
files can definitely do more than we're seeing here.

I don't understand your definition of board file, sorry. We've never had one, the only thing that's board-specific is the machine driver.

We had the same problem on Baytrail/Cherrytrail devices some 4 years ago and
we had to use an 'mclk' alias. We are going to have the same problem when we
expose the SSP MCLK, BLCK and FSYNC clocks - and that's also what the
Skylake driver did - we don't have a solution without global names.

You should be able to register links between devices using the clock
API, or add that functionality if it's not there but AFAIK clkdev still
works.

The machine driver has no information whatsoever on who provides the clock. I just don't see how I might link stuff without at least some amount of information?

All I needed was to toggle 2 gpios to select 44.1 or 48kHz...Looks like it's going to take two more years, oh well.



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