On 03/20/2007 01:35 PM, Takashi Iwai wrote: > The last post went through without moderation. > Really puzzling. Did someone approve manually? That last one, not me. This one I'm now replying to (from within my inbox), yes, me. But yes, something is rotten here. As I said in a later message (which you hadn't seen at the time you wrote this due to the massive delay of some messages showing up on list even after manual moderator acceptance) I even have a message in my inbox from yesterday that hasn't made it yet. My conclusion for the time being -- sourceforge sucks so bad that things are unsalvageable as long as the list is on there. linux-kernel is an open list and almost completely spam-free, so if vger is willing to host the list(s) I don't believe the alsa-project.org forwards would need to be disabled (although having a functional spamfilter on alsa-project.org directly will ofcourse also be good). As to the difference with alsa-user -- as far as I'm aware, alsa-user is a subscriber-only list which makes all the difference. Personally I wouldn't terribly mind having alsa-devel subscriber-only as well but the list would then recieve major flack from linux-kernel posters who want to cross-post without needing to subscribe. I've personally long since concluded that although subscriber only lists may suck, the spam problem is just too big if you don't have a few full-time admins to throw at it and thereby sucks worse (vger does have those full-time admins). Rene. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel