Re: dsnoop slave definition fails on startup

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At Mon, 12 Feb 2007 12:34:04 +0100,
Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> 
> Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > Lee Revell wrote:
> > > On 2/6/07, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > Add the following line in the slave block
> > > >
> > > >                 format S32_LE
> > > >
> > > > Currently, the default format of direct plugins is S16, and most of
> > > > ice1712 boards support only 32bit format.
> > > 
> > > Takashi-san,
> > > 
> > > This raises an interesting question - how can AC3 passthrough work on
> > > these devices?  mplayer and other apps fail because they can't set
> > > S16_LE.
> > 
> > It works simply by wrapping with plug (or linear) layer.
> > I thought mplayer already puts that...
> 
> Only when it's playing floating point samples.  I'll change that.

Hm, I thought it doesn't matter whether it's float or not, since only
upper 16bit is referred in 32bit frames.  (I remember AC3-passthru
worked well with my ice1712 boards.)

> > I myself think it's incer to add a format conversion as default in the
> > iec958 PCM definition although other may think differently.
> 
> Not having such a conversion means that applications have to remember
> that they might have to put a "plug:" in front when they want to do
> things like AC-3 or 5.1 output.

Right.  IIRC, the couter argument against the defalut plug is that we
provide "iec958" PCM as a kind of raw device.  This means, OTOH, that
the apps get more burden.  (Also, one another reason is that there is
a known bug in alsa-lib that plug over plug (more exactly route over
router) doesn't work well...)

IMO, the design of alsa-lib subsystems are often too lowlevel.  It's
an interesting experiment, but a bad choice in the end in most cases.
At least, "easy-to-do" setups have to be provided at the same time
even if we offer primally lowlevel and raw interfaces.


Takashi

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