>>Why accept the clearance unchallenged? We don't actually have the full recordings, just the bit originally put up on LiveATC.net (and since distributed virally by our trusted media), which lasts not much longer than a minute -- and even during that minute, the ATC is heard just as much, or more, as his son. In other words, the kid's words didn't occur in a vacuum; his father spoke immediately before and after his son did, every time, and we have no idea if just before the recording started the ATC prepped the pilots even more explicitly about what was going on (or if he continued to do so throughout; it's not clear how extensively the recording was edited or what was left out). Clearly, even in the short bit we do have, the ATC is right there, making it clear it's his son who is speaking with his consent. The pilots accepted the clearance for those reasons; it's not as if they thought some random 9-year-old in his basement in Ozone Park was somehow goofing around on the frequency. ----- Original Message ---- From: RWM <RWM@xxxxxxxxxx> To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 5:45:01 PM Subject: Re: NYTimes.com: Investigating Tiny Voices at Air Tower I don't disagree with the decision to bring the kids to work. In years past I've taken them to the hangar to see transport aircraft from that close-up, ground-level perspective. (Pretty scary to them, actually.) Agreed, you and I would undoubtedly observe the scene quietly, and even the typical 12 year old will show that sort of restraint, unless egged-on by a parent or teacher... All that said, with the exception of the gratuitous "Adios amigo", they seem to have been coached pretty well. Which brings me back to the piloting question. Why accept the clearance unchallenged? Bryant Petitt wrote: > Bob, > > And why did he even bring his kids to work? I would consider this a major distraction in the tower. I have been in the ATL tower one time in my life, and I pretty much kept my mouth shut, or whispers, as I would have on the few trips I have had (distant past) in the jump seat of an large airliner landing in SYD, Narita, or even my one experience in the jump seat of an Electra landing in Sal Paolo. > > Bryant Petitt > Cumming, GA > > > > > ________________________________ > From: RWM <RWM@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 1:06:39 PM > Subject: Re: NYTimes.com: Investigating Tiny Voices at Air Tower > > Although the intent here, and on the face of it, this was sort of cute, > would you actually accept a clearance at a high-density terminal airport > from an unexpected source in a child's voice? How about enroute? > > > > Bill Hough wrote: > >> This page was sent to you by: psa188@xxxxxxxxx >> >> N.Y. / REGION | March 04, 2010 >> Investigating Tiny Voices at Air Tower >> By MICHAEL WILSON >> An air traffic controller at Kennedy Airport is in trouble after >> > bringing his children to work - and letting them speak to pilots. > >> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/04/nyregion/04children.html?emc=eta1 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you wish to unsubscribe from the AIRLINE List, please send an E-mail to: "listserv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx". Within the body of the text, only write the following:"SIGNOFF AIRLINE". <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you wish to unsubscribe from the AIRLINE List, please send an E-mail to: "listserv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx". Within the body of the text, only write the following:"SIGNOFF AIRLINE".