On 25 Feb 2009 at 22:32, Ian Caldwell wrote: > Odd there was no fire. I wonder if they ran out of fuel? It has to be on the list of possibilities doesn't it. One report I read said that the damp ground would have soaked up any spilled fuel, and therefore there was no fire. Possible, I guess. An eyewitness said the airplane approached at an angle of about 45deg with an increased engine noise, which could indicate fuel starvation to the engines. One thing that surprises me is the flight crew did not survive. The cockpit seems pretty-much intact, altho if the 45deg angle is correct, the cockpit would have hit the ground pretty-hard. But what else? Windshear? There was no wind. Wake turbulence? We don't know what landed ahead of them. Icing? Temp. was above freezing I believe. Does the fact the crew didn't survive and there was no communication with the tower indicate they were unconscious, or maybe already dead, due to some fumes? There are extremist elements in Turkey. Quite a mystery... --paul Paul S. Russell, just4airlines.com sdn. bhd. E-mail: paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.just4airlines.com/ THE Information Resource for Airline/Aviation/Aerospace Personnel Ph: +60 3 5510 7063 Fax: +60 3 5510 4249 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you wish to unsubscribe from the AIRLINE List, please send an E-mail to: "listserv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx". Within the body of the text, only write the following:"SIGNOFF AIRLINE".