OK, this is the type of fare I am talking about. I have heard of the other kind of fare, but a YUP is the same deal as this MUP4BA3 Mark Mark Greenwood wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C6D1E5.23F591D0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > OK, here is an example > > 20SEP DEPARTURE DATE-----LAST DAY TO PURCHASE 7SEP > BASE FARE TAXES TOTAL > 1- CAD2781.00 238.72XT CAD3019.72ADT > XT 7.94CA 168.23XG 15.00SQ 32.08US > 7.74XY 2.76AY 4.97XF > 2781.00 238.72 3019.72TTL > ADT-01 MUP4BA3 > YVR UA CHI Q7.50 1383.00MUP4BA3 UA YVR Q7.50 1383.00MUP4BA3 > CAD2781.00 END XFORD4.5 > 1 UA1142P 20SEP 3 YVRORD SS1 0624 1235 /DCUA /E > 2 UA1119P 22SEP 5 ORDYVR SS1 1515 1743 /DCUA /E > > YVR-ORD on UA, booked in P class but pricing at an MUP fare. P is most > definitely a subclass of F and any fare starting with M is an economy class > fare. When I look at the seat map it brings up the First Class seat map so > the passenger is confirmed in the First Class cabin at the time of booking. > I've never heard of anything like what you're talking about Michael. If you > were upgraded on AC or LH, perhaps it was due to your Star Alliance Status. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Michael C. Berch > Sent: September 6, 2006 1:27 PM > To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: anyone hear about this fare class Y-UP? > > I suspect that Mark and I are talking about two different things. A and P > are discounted first class, and Z is discounted business class. > What I'm talking about is not sold as a first or business class fare; it > *can't* be, since the corporate travel agents (or individual travelers who > book the space and are reimbursed on expense account) are prohibited by > their company travel policy from booking any F or C fare, discount or > otherwise. > > What I'm referring to is a scheme whereby the airline advertises that > full-fare coach (Y) passengers will get automatic space-available upgrades > to F (on two-class aircraft) or C (on three-class aircraft). > Unlike A, P, or Z, this is not a published fare with rules, but simply an > internal marketing program. I have done this domestically on UA, NW, CO, > old FL, old QQ, and probably a couple of others, and internationally on AC > and LH. In each case the ticket was booked in plain Y, and at check-in I got > an F (C/J in the case of AC and LH) boarding pass. I don't have the boarding > pass stubs handy to check, but I think on AC it was XJ or YJ (by the way, A > and P on AC are discount economy fares). > > In some cases (NW, CO, QQ, FL) I got an F seat assignment on the phone at > the time of booking (or the travel agent got it for me); in other cases I > had to wait until check-in to get it. And once on NW and once on UA I was, > in effect, downgraded back to actual Y due to being bumped by actual > full-rev (or otherwise higher priority) F pax. > > In any case I've never booked in A or P for these. I have booked in Z, which > is my usual fare class to Europe on UA, and that is positive space in the C > cabin, and the fare is more than full-fare Y but less than C. > > -- > Michael C. Berch > mcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > On Sep 5, 2006, at 3:31 PM, Mark Gerrard wrote: > >> This is incorrect. >> >> YUP fares are usually booked in either A or P class. If you do a >> search on any of the major travel booking engines for a business >> class fare, it will be the lowest fare available, which will >> usually be anywhere from $700 to $1200 depending on destination. >> CO are I think the only major carrier that do not do YUP fares, >> they just have straight Z fares which are a discounted business class. >> >> Michael C. Berch wrote: >> >>> On most (major) airlines it's simply the unadorned Y fare, but >>> you have to check with the airline to make sure it applies to >>> your specific flight. "Y-UP" is not in common use; what usually >>> happens is that you book in Y, and through the reservations desk >>> or the web site you get a seat assignment in F. Then when you >>> check in, you get a real F boarding pass (which is often a >>> different color or style, and gets perks like a lounge, early >>> boarding, etc.). Sometimes the boarding pass is coded with a >>> class like NF, FN, ZF, FZ, or F2. 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