Re: anyone hear about this fare class Y-UP?

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OK, this is the type of fare I am talking about.  I have heard of the
other kind of fare, but a YUP is the same deal as this MUP4BA3

Mark

Mark Greenwood wrote:
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> OK, here is an example
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> 20SEP DEPARTURE DATE-----LAST DAY TO PURCHASE  7SEP            
>        BASE FARE                     TAXES             TOTAL   
>  1-   CAD2781.00                    238.72XT      CAD3019.72ADT
>     XT      7.94CA     168.23XG      15.00SQ      32.08US      
>             7.74XY       2.76AY       4.97XF                   
>          2781.00                    238.72           3019.72TTL
> ADT-01  MUP4BA3                                                
>  YVR UA CHI Q7.50 1383.00MUP4BA3 UA YVR Q7.50 1383.00MUP4BA3   
>  CAD2781.00 END XFORD4.5                                       
>  1 UA1142P 20SEP 3 YVRORD SS1  0624  1235  /DCUA /E            
>  2 UA1119P 22SEP 5 ORDYVR SS1  1515  1743  /DCUA /E            
>                                                                
> YVR-ORD on UA, booked in P class but pricing at an MUP fare.  P is most
> definitely a subclass of F and any fare starting with M is an economy class
> fare.  When I look at the seat map it brings up the First Class seat map so
> the passenger is confirmed in the First Class cabin at the time of booking.
> I've never heard of anything like what you're talking about Michael.  If you
> were upgraded on AC or LH, perhaps it was due to your Star Alliance Status.
>
> Mark 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Michael C. Berch
> Sent: September 6, 2006 1:27 PM
> To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: anyone hear about this fare class Y-UP?
>
> I suspect that Mark and I are talking about two different things. A and P
> are discounted first class, and Z is discounted business class.  
> What I'm talking about is not sold as a first or business class fare; it
> *can't* be, since the corporate travel agents (or individual travelers who
> book the space and are reimbursed on expense account) are prohibited by
> their company travel policy from booking any F or C fare, discount or
> otherwise.
>
> What I'm referring to is a scheme whereby the airline advertises that
> full-fare coach (Y) passengers will get automatic space-available upgrades
> to F (on two-class aircraft) or C (on three-class aircraft).  
> Unlike A, P, or Z, this is not a published fare with rules, but simply an
> internal marketing program.  I have done this domestically on UA, NW, CO,
> old FL, old QQ, and probably a couple of others, and internationally on AC
> and LH. In each case the ticket was booked in plain Y, and at check-in I got
> an F (C/J in the case of AC and LH) boarding pass. I don't have the boarding
> pass stubs handy to check, but I think on AC it was XJ or YJ (by the way, A
> and P on AC are discount economy fares).
>
> In some cases (NW, CO, QQ, FL) I got an F seat assignment on the phone at
> the time of booking (or the travel agent got it for me); in other cases I
> had to wait until check-in to get it. And once on NW and once on UA I was,
> in effect, downgraded back to actual Y due to being bumped by actual
> full-rev (or otherwise higher priority) F pax.
>
> In any case I've never booked in A or P for these. I have booked in Z, which
> is my usual fare class to Europe on UA, and that is positive space in the C
> cabin, and the fare is more than full-fare Y but less than C.
>
> --
> Michael C. Berch
> mcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> On Sep 5, 2006, at 3:31 PM, Mark Gerrard wrote:
>   
>> This is incorrect.
>>
>> YUP fares are usually booked in either A or P class. If you do a  
>> search on any of the major travel booking engines for a business  
>> class fare, it will be the lowest fare available, which will  
>> usually be anywhere from $700 to $1200 depending on destination.   
>> CO are I think the only major carrier that do not do YUP fares,  
>> they just have straight Z fares which are a discounted business class.
>>
>> Michael C. Berch wrote:
>>     
>>> On most (major) airlines it's simply the unadorned Y fare, but  
>>> you  have to check with the airline to make sure it applies to  
>>> your  specific flight. "Y-UP" is not in common use; what usually  
>>> happens is  that you book in Y, and through the reservations desk  
>>> or the web site  you get a seat assignment in F.  Then when you  
>>> check in, you get a  real F boarding pass (which is often a  
>>> different color or style, and  gets perks like a lounge, early  
>>> boarding, etc.). Sometimes the  boarding pass is coded with a  
>>> class like NF, FN, ZF, FZ, or F2.  Depends by airline.
>>>
>>>
>>>       
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