One of the main reasons for its existence is for business travelers whose corporate travel policies prevent them from traveling first class at company expense. Their receipt for expense account purposes will be designated as Y (coach), and many companies (fewer, though, than in the past) accept or require the use of Y (as opposed to discounted economy fares) because they are easily changeable and are refundable if the trip is canceled or rescheduled. But the traveler (*nod* *wink*) gets to sit in F. Good marketing strategy. -- Michael C. Berch mcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx On Sep 4, 2006, at 8:40 AM, Mark Gerrard wrote: > It's not a full fare coach ticket though. > > It's basically a discounted first class, coded as a coach fare with > a free upgrade, so if the F cabin is full they can downgrade you to > coach without financial compensation! > > Mark Greenwood wrote: >> >> Yes, many airlines have fares where if you pay full Y you get to >> fly in >> First/Business class. NW is one that springs to mind. >> >> Mark >> -----Original Message----- >> From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Mark Panitz >> Sent: September 2, 2006 9:40 PM >> To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: anyone hear about this fare class Y-UP? >> >> I heard on my local numbers the consumer reported says that if you >> found a >> Y-Up fare it mean automatic upgrade to first class?