David, you have often lowered the level of commentary on this list with your small-minded political views, and here you have done so again. You might read the news, but you don't understand it, and you are misrepresenting it here. In the past you have sometimes taken it even lower with personal attacks on members of this list. It is offensive, the views you have expressed are offensive, they are a complete drag, and they are inappropriate in this forum. There are lists of political nature which would welcome your political views. This isn't it. I agree with Michael, Baha, Alireza, Mark, and other contributors who have expressed their nausea about this type of commentary. ----- Original Message ----- From: David R To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 8:47 PM Subject: Re: Good Plan!! Excuse me but the ISLAM LEADERS have declared war against the west. Try reading the news once in a while! David R home.comcast.net/~damiross/books.html www.sequoians.com -----Original Message----- From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Michael C. Berch Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 20:44 To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Good Plan!! I have to agree with Alireza and Mark. There's plenty of room for humor on this list, but offensive ethnic stereotypes (like the "Mexican Air Force" joke) and anti-Muslim stuff (like the Saudi/Iran joke) really have no place here. We are supposedly a group of cosmopolitan travelers who visit many lands and meet people from many countries, cultures, and backgrounds, not a bunch of unsophisticated boors who exchange ethnic slurs in the guise of "humor". What's next, the jokes about Jews or black people? Or Polish or Irish or Italian people? The Iranian people are not "our" enemy (I'm speaking to my fellow Americans here). The Arab people (from Saudi Arabia or anywhere else) are not our enemy. The Muslim world is not our enemy. We may have our differences with the Iranian and Saudi governments (and indeed I do too!) In fact, I hope the friends of democracy in those countries will replace those governments with better ones. But in the meantime directing thinly-disguised anti-Iranian and anti-Arab hatred at Iran Air and Saudi Airlines in the form of an unfunny "joke" is just embarrassing on an international list server. -- Michael C. Berch mcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx