> AIRLINE/ TRAVELPAGES: > > What disturbs me about this situation is that the > marshall's security training fell short in > situations like these. And that that training seems to exclude > members of the traveling public who posses emotional > disabilities, as this gentlemen did. What's more, > today's Metro Newspapers reported that the victim's > wife was trying to explain the situation to the > marshalls. Granted, in their minds, she could have > been an accomplis, but it also says to me that this > is point two on the side of reasonable doubt that this > man was really a terrorist. With reasonable doubt, > that should be enough for a well trained officer to > think: ' Hey wait a fraction of a second and see > what develops!' > > In addition, wouldn't the airport security devices > picked-up such a bomb if there really was one? To > me,that's a third point in the 'just wait a second, and > let's let this play out' scenerio. But then again, I'm not a federal air marshall. > > Mike Burris > Cambridge, Mass > > --- Travel Pages <travelpages@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Can anyone truly count on them to behave > > consistently? > > > > You are however right -- the terrorists we know > > today would stay on mission target. We just > assume > > that's the largest asset, i.e. the aircraft would > be > > the true target, not the jetway. > > > > Can't stand what the media does with all this. > > > > Michael Burris <yyz_02140@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > AIRLINE: > > > > A true terrorist wouldn't run. > > > > Mike Burris > > Cambridge, Mass > > > > --- Travel Pages wrote: > > > > > This is a tough call all right. > > > > > > Scenario 1: > > > > > > Man says he has bomb. Man runs. Man goes into > > > bag where he said bomb was. > > > Officer fires. Man dies. > > > > > > Scenario 2: > > > > > > Officer pauses to investigate. Man is a true > > > terrorist, bomb is real, bomb goes off in > Jetway. > > > TSA pays heavy media price as dozens of > > vacationing > > > civilians die due to officer hesitation. Nation > > > goes into red alert mode, Wall Street get jumpy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > David MR wrote: > > > Youmake a good point. In a situation like this > the > > > suspect should not be shot. I'm not talking > about > > > the fact that he was mentally ill. Rather, it > > would > > > be better to incapacite then they authorities > can > > > question him about possible conspirators. > > > > > > David R > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > From: Travel Pages > > > > > > > The story as reported below smacks of a bad > > > situation gone worse. > > > > > > > > No bomb, and what appears to be a person with > a > > > mental condition. If the > > > > wife's statement as initially reported is > > > accurate, the shot individual may not > > > > have had the capacity to comply with > > instructions. > > > I can only imagine how she > > > > is feeling tonight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.forbes.com/business/businesstech/feeds/ap/2005/12/07/ap2376644.html > > > > > > > > > > > <> 757, flailing his arms, while his wife > tried > > to > > > explain that he was mentally ill > > > > and had not taken his medication. > > > > > > > > The passenger indicated there was a bomb in > his > > > bag and was confronted by air > > > > marshals but ran off the aircraft, Doyle said. > > The > > > marshals went after him and > > > > ordered him to get down on the ground, but he > > did > > > not comply and was shot when > > > > he apparently reached into the bag, Doyle > > said.>> > > > > > > > > "Michael C. Berch" wrote: > > > > The passenger died of injuries in the hospital > > not > > > long after the > > > > shooting. He was apparently not killed > > instantly. > > > So CNN rewrote the > > > > headline and the lead, and may have left a > true > > > (but not up to date) > > > > reference to the condition of the passenger, > > later > > > in the story. > > > > Also, CNN like a number of other news sites > > > updates breaking stories > > > > in place, without changing the URL. The short > > > summary I copied and > > > > pasted from the CNN main page was static, > while > > > the contents of the > > > > story behind the link were dynamic. > > > > > > > > In other words, not bad reporting, but an > > artifact > > > of dynamic > > > > updating of online news. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Michael C. Berch > > > > mcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 7, 2005, at 1:04 PM, David MR wrote: > > > > > The CNN headline says "Passemger killed > after > > > claiming to have a > > > > > bomb." The CNN article says in the opening > > > paragraph "Federal air > > > > > marshals shot and killed a 44-year-old U.S. > > > citizen..." yet just a > > > > > few paragraphs later it says the citizen was > > > wounded. > > > > > > > > > > This is why I check other sources when > reading > > a > > > CNN article > > > > > involving aviation or plolitics - I want to > > make > > > sure I get the > > > > > correct story. At least they got the number > of > > > pax that an AA 757 > > > > > can carry correct > > > > > > > > > > David R > > > > > > > > > > -------------- Original message > -------------- > > > > > > > From: "Michael C. Berch" > > > > >> Police: Shot fired on Miami airport Jetway > > > > >> BREAKING NEWS > > > > >> Police: Shot fired on Miami airport Jetway > > > > >> > > > > >> A federal air marshal shot and wounded a > > > passenger on the Jetway > > > > >> connecting an American Airlines plane to > > Miami > > > International Airport, > > > > >> sources told CNN. The marshal's action came > > > after threatening action > > > > >> by the passenger, a federal government > > official > > > said. The Federal Air > > > > >> Marshals Service confirmed a marshal fired > > his > > > weapon while the > > > > >> Boeing 757 -- which was en route from > > Medellin, > > > Colombia, to Orlando, > > > > >> Florida -- was on the ground at Miami. > > > > >> > > > > >> Full story: > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/07/airplane.gunshot/ > > > > > > >> index.html > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > > >> Michael C. Berch > > > > >> mcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Yahoo! Personals > > > > Let fate take it's course directly to your > > email. > > > > See who's waiting for you Yahoo! Personals > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Yahoo! 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