David, in your scenario it would be the right thing to do in a perfect world where the FAM's have mind reading capability, but in the scenario that occurred, under the stated circumstances, the only action by the FAM's was the one they took. They don't have the luxury to take the time and THINK about the situation. They can only react to the current situation and the facts as they know it. It may be that their training must be reviewed for the more PC way to handle it :-) Richard On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 23:42:41 +0000 David MR <damiross3@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Youmake a good point. In a situation like this the suspect should > not be shot. I'm not talking about the fact that he was mentally > ill. Rather, it would be better to incapacite then they authorities > can question him about possible conspirators. > > David R > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Travel Pages <travelpages@xxxxxxxxx> > > > The story as reported below smacks of a bad situation gone worse. > > > > > No bomb, and what appears to be a person with a mental condition. > If the > > wife's statement as initially reported is accurate, the shot > individual may not > > have had the capacity to comply with instructions. I can only > imagine how she > > is feeling tonight. > > > > > http://www.forbes.com/business/businesstech/feeds/ap/2005/12/07/ap2376644 .html > > > > > <> 757, flailing his arms, while his wife tried to explain that he > was mentally ill > > and had not taken his medication. > > > > The passenger indicated there was a bomb in his bag and was > confronted by air > > marshals but ran off the aircraft, Doyle said. The marshals went > after him and > > ordered him to get down on the ground, but he did not comply and > was shot when > > he apparently reached into the bag, Doyle said.>> > > > > "Michael C. Berch" wrote: > > The passenger died of injuries in the hospital not long after the > > > shooting. He was apparently not killed instantly. So CNN rewrote > the > > headline and the lead, and may have left a true (but not up to > date) > > reference to the condition of the passenger, later in the story. > > Also, CNN like a number of other news sites updates breaking > stories > > in place, without changing the URL. The short summary I copied and > > > pasted from the CNN main page was static, while the contents of > the > > story behind the link were dynamic. > > > > In other words, not bad reporting, but an artifact of dynamic > > updating of online news. > > > > -- > > Michael C. Berch > > mcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > On Dec 7, 2005, at 1:04 PM, David MR wrote: > > > The CNN headline says "Passemger killed after claiming to have a > > > > bomb." The CNN article says in the opening paragraph "Federal > air > > > marshals shot and killed a 44-year-old U.S. citizen..." yet just > a > > > few paragraphs later it says the citizen was wounded. > > > > > > This is why I check other sources when reading a CNN article > > > involving aviation or plolitics - I want to make sure I get the > > > > correct story. At least they got the number of pax that an AA > 757 > > > can carry correct > > > > > > David R > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > From: "Michael C. Berch" > > >> Police: Shot fired on Miami airport Jetway > > >> BREAKING NEWS > > >> Police: Shot fired on Miami airport Jetway > > >> > > >> A federal air marshal shot and wounded a passenger on the > Jetway > > >> connecting an American Airlines plane to Miami International > Airport, > > >> sources told CNN. The marshal's action came after threatening > action > > >> by the passenger, a federal government official said. The > Federal Air > > >> Marshals Service confirmed a marshal fired his weapon while the > > > >> Boeing 757 -- which was en route from Medellin, Colombia, to > Orlando, > > >> Florida -- was on the ground at Miami. > > >> > > >> Full story: http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/07/airplane.gunshot/ > > > >> index.html > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Michael C. Berch > > >> mcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Personals > > Let fate take it's course directly to your email. > > See who's waiting for you Yahoo! Personals > >