On the other hand, it wouldn't be the first time military and civil radios failed to inter-operate. Stay tuned. Those "wave-off" lasers worked real well, too, BTW. PF/PM probably couldn't see them through the glare from the flares... Gerard M Foley wrote: > I'm not surprised. The pilot's account completely omitted any > reference to the ADIZ, anything about why a VFR flight should not be > able to recognize the District of Columbia, and why his operative > radio didn't seem to operate. Some instructor!