Do they ask everyone for proof of citizenship? And what that might be seeing as most US Citizens don't have a passport? Who walks around (or asks for) a birth certificate? If you say you are a US Citizen, how are they going to disprove it? > Let's face it, these guys are after $$$$ not the real deal. Real deal is, > the government did wrong things about these warnings and they are still > doing the wrong things. > > Yesterday, I got an email from our local FSDO about the Seattle TRACON tour > that they are arranging. I was so excited being in Washington Center and > Dulles Approach at the time numerous times. They slapped the "US Citizens > only" shit to my face again.. > > Let's see , I am CFI, TSA approved and investigated, trained some military > pilots.. yet I cannot get into the approach facility.. Whatever.. When I > called the contact person she said that it didn't make sense to her either > (i.e the FAA) but it was a TSA requirement.. > > AOPA heard from me, and will hear more about this.. > > BAHA > Fan of real freedom and real security > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryant Petitt [mailto:skyshirts@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 8:19 AM > To: Skyone; Airline List > Subject: [Sky-1] Evidence That Airlines Were Warned of Terrorists' Suicide > Hijackings Before 9-1 > > > Nation's Leading Aviation and Top 9-11 Law Firm > Comments on Evidence That Airlines Were Warned of > Terrorists' Suicide Hijackings Before 9-11 > > > "Today's reports about the warnings the FAA and the > airline industry had in advance of 9-11 are disturbing > on several fronts," said Marc S. Moller, a senior > partner at Kreindler & Kreindler LLP, which represents > more 9-11 families than any law firm in the nation. > "Certainly, we all must be concerned about the slow > pace with which critical information such as this > highly troubling report is revealed. Further, this > report appears to confirm what many of us have known > all along. The airline industry paid lip service to > the need for security to protect passengers and others > from the consequences of a terrorist attack, but > completely failed to provide the level of security at > checkpoints and on their aircraft to meet that need. > In the final analysis, airline passengers and ground > victims were at the mercy of terrorists who took > advantage of weaknesses in the security system which > were obvious to anyone who might seek to exploit them. > This latest report denies the airlines any basis to > claim that they were not warned." > > > "This report demonstrates that the FAA repeatedly > warned the airlines about the imminent danger of a > suicide hijacking and yet, the airlines simply did not > do their job," said Brian Alexander, another Kreindler > partner representing 9-11 family members. "The report > completely belies the notion that the airlines could > not have foreseen the tragedy of 9/11. Indeed, short > of the date and the flight number they knew everything > necessary to take appropriate steps to beef-up > security and prevent the hijackings. The airlines are > the last line of defense and had the best opportunity > to stop the terrorists in their tracks. They have a > duty and responsibility for passenger screening and > safety and, armed with substantial warnings, failed > miserably in executing that responsibility. The system > was -- and likely still is -- broken." > > > Mr. Moller points out that in the Spring of 2001 air > carriers were specifically warned that terrorists > might conduct suicide hijacking. > > > Kreindler & Kreindler represents more than 350 9-11 > families in all matters related to the tragedy, > including the legal suits against the airlines and > other entities; the suits against the terrorists and > those who funded their actions; and in the execution > of the federal 9-11 Victim Compensation Fund. > Attorneys at the firm are available to comment on the > reports today about warnings the Federal Aviation > Administration and airline carriers had about > terrorist plans and activities in advance of the > attacks of September 11, 2001. > > > Attorneys include: > > > Marc S. Moller: Kreindler law partner who has > represented thousands of victims of commercial and > general aviation disasters, and who has litigated > accidents involving single-engine, multi-engine, > helicopter, corporate jet and military equipment for > more than 25 years. He is presently the Plaintiffs' > Liaison Counsel for all tort litigation arising from > the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, and is an > internationally recognized expert in aircraft > litigation. > > > Brian Alexander: Kreindler law partner and a graduate > of the United States Military Academy who served as a > helicopter and fixed wing pilot from 1985- 1990. He > was graduated from the Army Aviation Accident > Investigation Course, accruing thousands of hours in a > variety of rotary and fixed wing aircraft, has more > than 1,000 hours piloting small aircraft, and has > successfully litigated many large and small airline > crash cases. He currently serves as co- liaison > counsel on the tort litigation arising from the > September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. > > > Founded in 1950, Kreindler & Kreindler LLP is > nationally recognized as the first and most prominent > aviation law firm in the nation. The firm has been the > leading plaintiff legal counsel on hundreds of > aviation cases, including major ones such as the > September 11 terrorist attacks, Pan Am Lockerbie > Flight 103, Korean Airlines Flight 007, and American > Airlines Flight 587, and many cases of small private > and commercial crashes. The leading legal textbook in > the aviation field, "Aviation Accident Law," and a > standard legal treatise, "New York Law of Torts," were > authored by members of the firm. > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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